Well I made a mistake and bought them last Friday thinking they were just the chamois ones but ended up with the gel ones which I don't wear.
Butlers won't let me change them now I have worn them at the weekend, there perfect clean condition and have just been laundered

Price new £51.50, but price to you[size=150]£39.50[/size] so I can get pair of normal chamois one's
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Cheers George