Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Jon H » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:52 am

[quote="Amy"] now that I'm grown up I have a kind of fascination with things like make-up and nice shoes and clothes.
Me too. Ahem, anyway...

[quote="Amy"]I might see if there's any places of interest - the caves on the island are pretty cool - that I want to visit (by bike of course) and maybe another day in Palma to see the sights there. There is a prehistoric village I want to visit but it's too far away being down in the south of the island. People are welcome to join me and enjoy looking at the architecture, history and wildlife of Mallorca as well as getting the miles in and stopping at cafes now and again.

The Caves of Drach are pretty cool. At one point you get to a huge chamber which has a lake in it, but I won't spoil the surprise of what happens next. They're right over on the east coast though, so it would be a long flat ride to get there and negotiating the caves in cycling shoes might be a bit challenging.
Palma is worth a look around for a few hours, either ride there or get the bus or a taxi. The old part of town including the cathedral is pretty good. Oh, and there are some bike shops too.
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Jon H » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:08 am

[quote="Andrew G"]I've never been there before but don't intend to look at tarmac all the time. I do intend to do a lot of cycling and get quite a lot of miles in but I don't really do training as such, there seems to be quite a few of us going as well so I'd be surprised if everyone was setting off for the same "club run" all the time. One of the things I really enjoyed in Italy last year was long (6-8 hour) rides punctuated with a couple of cafe stops at interesting and scenic places. I found it a good way to do all the long cycling rides I wanted, at a reasonable "steady" pace so not just mooching about but not at a "training" pace either, and still see places. Anyone thinking along these lines or is it a training camp for most?

I've no idea what other people's plans are (if they have any) - harder morning ride and then chill or sight see in the afternoon, or all day rides, or whatever. Any thoughts folks?

If those that have been before can chuck a few nice places up in the air then I can have a bit of a shufty at what's where on a map and what's got link up possibilities.

If Huw is doing some proper coaching of his gang then it may not suit, or he may not want, too many others involved in certain things anyway.

BTW what sort of temperature is it when we'll be there on average? Is it good but reasonable all day or is there a hot patch that should be avoided in the day for those of a less swarthy complexion?

Oh and for shoes I find Specialized very comfy, mine are silver.


Have a look at some of the places I mentioned earlier on in this thread.

I'm not planning on doing rides at training group pace; 17/18mph group pace will do for me. In previous years most of the rides I've done have been in the 60-80 mile range, setting off around 9.30 and getting back for a late lunch and a siesta or lounge around the pool in the afternoon. It's worth planning at least one full day out though, such as up to Sa Callobra, then do an easier day after that such as pootle along to Saint Elm or sightseeing in Palma.

In April it can be a bit chilly first thing in the morning; knee/arm warmers and gilet type of chilly. It warms up though but doesn't get ridiculously hot. It's worth taking and using suntan lotion though; factor 200 should be OK for you complexion.
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Jon H » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:10 am

[quote="Michelle"]Sounds good. Maybe we should have hired a car then....

It's easy to that when you're there if you want to do a non-riding day. There's a car hire place right opposite the hotel.
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Amy » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:28 pm

[quote="Jon Hemming"]The Caves of Drach are pretty cool. At one point you get to a huge chamber which has a lake in it, but I won't spoil the surprise of what happens next


They're ones I haven't seen but I think I've got a Handel on what happens - I've been in the Caves of Arta and the ones near Pollenca (can't remember the name but it has a nice cafe). But I don't think there's any cave systems over where we are.

Andrew, your idea of 'training' rides sounds more like I want to do but you may have to go a little slower or wait for me on the hills - just beware of the cake-eating cats if you do :mrgreen: and it sounds like others may want to do the same sort of thing at least now and again.
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Mike I » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:41 pm

[quote]I've never been there before but don't intend to look at tarmac all the time. I do intend to do a lot of cycling and get quite a lot of miles in but I don't really do training as such, there seems to be quite a few of us going as well so I'd be surprised if everyone was setting off for the same "club run" all the time. One of the things I really enjoyed in Italy last year was long (6-8 hour) rides punctuated with a couple of cafe stops at interesting and scenic places. I found it a good way to do all the long cycling rides I wanted, at a reasonable "steady" pace so not just mooching about but not at a "training" pace either, and still see places. Anyone thinking along these lines or is it a training camp for most?


I was going to try and strike a balance between full on training on the one hand and a week of skipping and plaiting on the other. I think cake may be the answer :P .
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby huw williams » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:19 pm

[quote="Andrew G"] If Huw is doing some proper coaching of his gang then it may not suit, or he may not want, too many others involved in certain things anyway.


All I've got planned for them is 7 hours each day in the hills @ training group pace and anyone is welcome to get involved :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Keith » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:20 pm

[quote="Andrew G"]..... but I don't really do training as such ....


What do you think going to Mallorca for a weeks riding in early April is then? I'd call that training!
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Amy » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:07 pm

I'd call it having fun while getting fit on holiday :D

What about two weeks cycling in Scotland? What would you call that? Most of the first week will be luggage free but the rest will be riding on tour with at least rear panniers, a small rack pack and a handlebar bag (useful for carrying maps, money and, of course, easy access to the camera) :mrgreen:
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Marek » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:58 pm

1.5km swim before breakfast
150km bike ride before lunch
20km run after lunch

Every day. :twisted:

Except the day that we take to the hired mountain bikes and ride around the whole of the island through the sand.

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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Andrew G » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:02 pm

[quote="Keith"][quote="Andrew G"]..... but I don't really do training as such ....


What do you think going to Mallorca for a weeks riding in early April is then? I'd call that training!

Yeah I know but I don't do structure so I'm told it's not training properly. Anyway you've got to factor in the negative effect of the food and drink I'll consume against the cycling gain :D .

I'll join you for the bike ride Marek but you can stuff the swim and run bits.
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby DavidD » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:40 pm

Huw,

Add me to the list. I'm taking the 15:40 flight from Gatwick on the 1st and returning on the 13:50 flight on the 7th. I shall be looking for some alternative rides to the training group.
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby huw williams » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:16 pm

Good man Dave

Realistically there won't be anyone doing 'training group' speed rides every day (unless they're intent on flying home in a box.)

The usual theme will be hilly rides of 3 to 5 hours daily through some excellent terrain where you'll learn as much about descending as you will about climbing. If needed we'll do some proper 1 hour training sessions in the afternoons on the roads just out of town for those racers who want to actually do some speed/intensity work as some will be racing as soon as they get off the plane home - this will hopefully soften them up enough so that the rest of us can keep up with them on the next day's ride :D

Each evening I'm suggesting a very brief pre-dinner coaching talk (in the bar, naturally) on various training aspects and to open the debate up to those in attendance to contribute - we'll have some experienced racers/testers on hand for useful information exchange so let's not waste the opportunity. Anyone who has any ideas on contributing to this or any areas they want covered - I'm all ears.

Then it'll be dinner and drinks at which point Andrew will take over for a more lengthy, one-sided lecture on any subject you care to mention :lol:

We're still keen to get as many riders of all standards on this trip, the more diverse the better for all concerned, so if anyone knows anyone who might be interested please let them know

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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Rob C » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:29 pm

I just found a place offering a week here with flights for less then £200, very tempting...
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby huw williams » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:30 pm

[quote="Rob C"]I just found a place offering a week here with flights for less then £200, very tempting...


Explain???
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Re: Majorca training: April 2009 IS GO!

Postby Andrew G » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:51 am

[quote="huw williams"]Then it'll be dinner and drinks at which point Andrew will take over for a more lengthy, one-sided lecture on any subject you care to mention :lol:

:oops: possibly slightly slurred.

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