Wheels: yet another thread

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Postby Elliot M » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:13 pm

Hmm, tempting, I have Hope XCs on one MTB and Pro 2s on the other and have never needed to look at the bearings. Are the road ones Monos?
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Postby Will » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:20 pm

[quote="seanieh.Piano_Condor©"]I thought all Campag stuff was handmade in some shack on tuscan olive grove hillside :P


You're confusing it with Rapha :wink:
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Postby Andrew G » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:34 pm

Outsourced to be handmade in some shack (you mean beautiful engineering workshop) on tuscan olive grove hillside by a venerable craftsman ! :D

Seriously if you go factory built then from experience I'd go for Campagnolo. I know Fulcrum are in theory made by the same people but I think the Campag ones are better. (Maybe the craftsmen start at Fulcrum and work their way up to Campag :wink: ).
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Postby Snoop Doug » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:52 pm

I recently bought some Roval Fusée wheels in Pearsons. They were five hundred squiddly dids - Will P reckoned they are best around (around, geddit....maybe not :oops: ) in that price range. I found my Campag Sciroccos very good but these Fusées are a class above. True and fast - I'm very, very happy with them.

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Postby Mike I » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:17 pm

I love the totally un-bling look of my Neutrons. And, after about 2,000 miles, they are still true - even though I had to replace a spoke. By comparison, I also have a Record / Open Pro combo; it's amazing how much easier the Neutrons are to keep turning towards the end of a long and/or hilly ride.
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Postby Phil S » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:12 pm

I am selling some nice pimped wheels. Make me an offer.

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Postby Elliot M » Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:07 pm

Unfortunately I'm after clinchers...
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Postby Marek » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:27 pm

I too have to say that Campag wheels do seem to be pretty impressive. No wheel is bomb proof, I should know I have killed enough over the last few years, but the Campag Eurus that I bought off Richy V a year or so ago run very well. They are significantly better than the Mavic wheels which are a darn site more expensive.

I don't know much about anything not factory built, as that is what I have tended to go for.

I have raced on the Eurus wheels for most of last year and this year and they have not given me any grief at all except for the first race I used them where I hit every pot hole in Charlwood where the stones were missing and I dented the rim which needed replacing. That was not cheap, but in my experience that would have happened with any wheel as I really whacked into them and I aint light.

But they are stiff but not uncomfortable, so I can use them on long rides with no bother and in longer races and they feel good. They seem reasonably light, but do seem strong as they have stayed true through all the time I have been using them. The hubs do run very smooth and I can set the wheel rolling and it will run for a long time.

If all the Campy wheels are of a similar ilk then I would recommend going there. In the future I will only be buying Campy wheels unless someone can persuade me otherwise. But as I say my only experience is with a range of different Mavic wheels and the Campy Eurus.

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Postby Tony » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:23 pm

Hi Phil - Do you know if I would be able to fit spokey-dokeys to the DT Swiss Aerolite spokes on your wheels? :lol:
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Postby Phil S » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:51 pm

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Postby Wal » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:19 am

What about Xero wheels? Impressive weight/price ratio! Their Airy XLR-1 must be one of the lightest wheelsets under £400.

[url]http://www.velomax.co.uk/display.php?displaytype=WHEELS[/url]

I'm tempted by a pair of the XR-1s myself (1520g, £199.95 delivered from Zepnat).
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Postby Elliot M » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:26 pm

Hmm I think the reason the Xeros are that light is they don't have enough spokes! 16/20 for the XR1s, 16/18 for the XLR Airy.

Even the American Classics are 18/24.





Hang on, what about the new 1090g Lightweight clinchers?

http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-12071566.html
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Postby Wal » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:49 pm

[quote]Hmm I think the reason the Xeros are that light is they don't have enough spokes! 16/20 for the XR1s, 16/18 for the XLR Airy.


Not necessarily such a bad thing; my budget Shimano 105 (WH-5600) wheels have 16/20 spokes and they seem pretty strong. They're not super light (1760g or thereabouts) but much of the extra weight is in the hubs (incl. steel freehub); the rims are pretty light, I think.

I have American Classic wheels on my MTB. They're crazy light and have held up well so far. Only complaint is that the alloy freehub body seems to be quite soft and is notched from the cassette. I expect it's the same on their road wheels.

Yeah, Lightweights would be nice, but I'd have to sell a kidney to afford them.
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Postby Elliot M » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:44 pm

OK, I'm now thinking of going for a set of Tune Standard wheels

Tune MIG 70 front 28h
Tune MAG 190 rear 32h

DT RR 1.1 rim

DT Rev/Comp spokes

So superlight cartridge bearing hubs with bog standard spokes and light (without being too light) rim

Therefore hopefully reliable and easy to fix, while probably around 1400g

All for €569 => 385 delivered...
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Postby Elliot M » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:10 pm

Those are DT's standard double butted spokes (Comp are slightly heavier/stronger than the Revolutions)
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