Goals for 2009

[Antloony]

[quote="Dombo"]Move from 18s to 19s in the CR

[Dombo]

It's just the thought of getting spat out the back before the lights at Hooley and being swept up by the 18s, deafened by their hoots and jeers

[Tony]

No goals for me.....not publicly anyway. Riding the bike again may be one! Plus tidying the garden, cleaning the house, etc.!

I did notice that a few people's goals don't complement each other very well. For example, riding the 12hr and success at Palace is a bit like saying I want the marathon skills of Paula Radcliffe simultaneously with the sprinting skills of Usain Bolt. I've never seen that person, but they'd be a pretty scarey site! Achieving your "optimum" result in both events in the same season is not realistic. Personal dissatisfaction with results in both events is a significant risk.

For one rider in particular, I would not recommend riding the 12-hour. Despite the the experiences and pedigree of some the more mature boys and girls in ACC in such events, which would be a great help, this person is much more suited to shorter, sharper road races. Save the 12-hour for a few years' time!

[Stu Merckx Man]

[quote="Tony"]No goals for me.....not publicly anyway. Riding the bike again may be one! Plus tidying the garden, cleaning the house, etc.!

I did notice that a few people's goals don't complement each other very well. For example, riding the 12hr and success at Palace is a bit like saying I want the marathon skills of Paula Radcliffe simultaneously with the sprinting skills of Usain Bolt. I've never seen that person, but they'd be a pretty scarey site! Achieving your "optimum" result in both events in the same season is not realistic. Personal dissatisfaction with results in both events is a significant risk.

For one rider in particular, I would not recommend riding the 12-hour. Despite the the experiences and pedigree of some the more mature boys and girls in ACC in such events, which would be a great help, this person is much more suited to shorter, sharper road races. Save the 12-hour for a few years' time!

[Sylv]

Well for you at a rate of one crash per hour they are fairly high

[quote="Stu Merckx Man"]oh tony your so subtle!

[Toks]

[quote="Tony"]

I did notice that a few people's goals don't complement each other very well. For example, riding the 12hr and success at Palace is a bit like saying I want the marathon skills of Paula Radcliffe simultaneously with the sprinting skills of Usain Bolt. I've never seen that person, but they'd be a pretty scarey site! Achieving your "optimum" result in both events in the same season is not realistic. Personal dissatisfaction with results in both events is a significant risk.

For one rider in particular, I would not recommend riding the 12-hour. Despite the the experiences and pedigree of some the more mature boys and girls in ACC in such events, which would be a great help, this person is much more suited to shorter, sharper road races. Save the 12-hour for a few years' time!

[quote="Toks"][quote="Tony"]

I did notice that a few people's goals don't complement each other very well. For example, riding the 12hr and success at Palace is a bit like saying I want the marathon skills of Paula Radcliffe simultaneously with the sprinting skills of Usain Bolt. I've never seen that person, but they'd be a pretty scarey site! Achieving your "optimum" result in both events in the same season is not realistic. Personal dissatisfaction with results in both events is a significant risk.

For one rider in particular, I would not recommend riding the 12-hour. Despite the the experiences and pedigree of some the more mature boys and girls in ACC in such events, which would be a great help, this person is much more suited to shorter, sharper road races. Save the 12-hour for a few years' time!

[Jon H]

1. Top 12 position in Spoco SE series & top 3 on handicap.
2. Get back to regular sub-hour 25 form.
3. Sub 2-hour 50.

[Andrew G]

[quote="Toks"]I've got to disagree 100% the key determinant in doing well in a 12 hour race and doing well at Palace is a high lactate threshold or sustainable power. Admittedly one requires more endurance training, good fueling an pacing strategy and the other some anaerobic and sprint training but they can definitley be done. It takes some planning and you wouldn't want to do peak for them at the same time. For example, Hal came 2nd at Palace about 3 times and also got top 10 in quite a few 6 hr plus sportivs. Nonsense, and I repeat, of course it can be done.

[Tony]

Toks of course it can be done. Some of the top road-men in the country are great at short-distances as well as longer-distances. A strong rider is always a strong rider! For example, someone succeeding in sportifs is a much better all-round cyclist than your average third-cat and will, therefore, inevitably bash most of them at Palace. Sportifs in any case tend to have road-race type periods which is where the boys and men get sorted out.

Having said that, my statement that the goals don't complement each other very well is 100% accurate! One requires more endurance training, good fueling and pacing strategy and the other some anaerobic and sprint training! Andrew makes some good points about them being psyhcologically very different events too.

As an example, take Ian Holt. When he was riding the crit series seriously his training was extremely focused on short-sharp anaerobic training. His successes that season included winning the London Bob Chicken Grand Prix (and a brief clip on Grandstand to boot). His achievements in longer E12 races at around that time were a clear level below this (still respectable - but no longer that good). Even taking me as a simple case last year - I did some focused, anaerobic training for the HillClimbs and got back to a reasonable standard of fiteness and recorded respectable performances. However, could I stay with those whom I had beaten on a longer clubrun at fruity pace - only just! The tables were completely turned. After 30-miles my doors always fell off.

Given the constraints of time, motivation, etc. that was the optimum we could achieve. Comparative success in one but not the other.

[Robh]

Nicely put Tony and also to you Andrew.

[Michelle]

Right, back to goals.

Ok guys and gals, I have prevaricated long enough. My goals for next year are...

1. 1st Cat race licence.
2. Win a (proper) womens road race.
3. Go out with the training group and not get dropped.

[Antloony]

[quote="Michelle"]Right, back to goals.

3. Go out with the training group and not get dropped.

[Andrew G]

[quote="Michelle"]
1. 1st Cat race licence.
2. Win a (proper) womens road race.
3. Go out with the training group and not get dropped.
4. Ride for 2 months consecutively without catching some kind of snotty ailment .