Box: bottom of the Zig Zag to grass island by the first car park = 8:15 (3 years ago, when I was fit and sucking Ibbo's wheel)
Box: at the weekend = 8:37
Toys Hill: first go two days ago on the Brasted (aka "easy") side from the 40mph signs to the pub car park = 9:50
Haven't done the "soul destroying" steep side of Toys since Maria did it for the first time, on the epic Penshurst ride with me, Phil et al. We all nearly passed out in our risotto when we got back to the George Walk.