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Sunday Club Run

Postby Graham O » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:53 am

All,

It is time that we raised the idea of starting a ACC Sunday Club Run again. I quite like the idea of getting out on Sunday Mornings for an 'old school' type club run.

Nothing too fast, but just a chance to do some alternate routes and experience a few hills..

Anyone else interested ?

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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Rob Q » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:39 am

I would be interested. It will give those who cannot always make the Saturday CR a chance to get out witht the club. Also some Saturdays are a washout (like the expected weather this Saturday) and Sunday is supposed to be ok. :roll:
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Graham O » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:15 am

I'm in the same boat. I can't make Saturday Mornings to often these days..

If you're up for getting out this sunday, post here I guess......I'll be out in the morning...
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Graham O » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:42 am

Just seen Andrews Post for a ride on the 25th. I'll tag along with this, on this sunday...

It would still be good to try to organise a more regular ride...There was quite a lot of discussion on this earlier in the year, and now seems to be the time to get this going...
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Andrew G » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:55 pm

See you on Sunday Graham.

For general info to anyone, the rides I do on Sunday's I don't class as Club Runs. There isn't the always looked after and waiting element. Obviously if someone punctures then I stop, and a regroup at the top of major hills, but otherwise if you're dropped you're dropped and there isn't a cafe stop unless stipulated.
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Rob Q » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:57 pm

[quote="Andrew G"]See you on Sunday Graham.

For general info to anyone, the rides I do on Sunday's I don't class as Club Runs. There isn't the always looked after and waiting element. Obviously if someone punctures then I stop, and a regroup at the top of major hills, but otherwise if you're dropped you're dropped and there isn't a cafe stop unless stipulated.

I guess this is where some clarity is needed. If a Sunday CR is going to be arranged then club rules and etiquette should come into play. I know Andrew and others arrange alternative rides on Sundays, but as Andrew has stated this is not a CR, but just a social ride with no stopping for slow riders etc. The problem that may occur if you start having a CR is the organisation of grouping riders by ability and numbers. The last thing we would want is for riders getting dropped and lost without the help of those who know the routes.
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Andrew G » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:12 pm

[quote="Rob Quinn"]The last thing we would want is for riders getting dropped and lost without the help of those who know the routes.

I agree with what you say about saying is it a CR (with associated rules or etiquette) or not, however there is something that has served many people well over the years on all sorts of riding both with and without clubs.

Ordnance Survey Landranger maps, handy fellas and fit perfectly inside a jersey pocket. We are adults and although there is a nanny state in many ways surely there is some element of being responsible for yourself.

Personally I would say that the Saturday CR is the place if you want the control, Sunday you learn to fend for yourself, either take a map with you or follow signposts if you get lost/dropped. Hey presto you may even find a new bit that you can show people and extend both parties knowledge.

Don't take any of what I just said, okay ranted, personally Rob. It's not directed at you, and indeed doesn't apply to you.
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby carl f » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:41 pm

Graham
sunday rides good idea, same as you sats are difficult for me,i'll be up for joining you from november elmers end or whickam is a good meeting point for kent hills
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Graham O » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:04 pm

Good stuff carl.

What I'd really like to do is just explore a few different routes around Kent \ Surrey and perhaps accasionally do a more challenging ride. i definitely don't want to be tied down to the same route each week, and don't particularly want to do the same type of riding as happens on the saturday ride (i.e. big groups on a largely flat course and lots or rules)

In some cycling clubs, the sunday club run is an opportunity to just get out, spin the legs and perhaps recover from more intensive training rides \ races earlier in the week. Its also a good opportunity to visit a new places and see a bit of the countryside. There are quite a few cycling friendly caf's to aim for. I know penshurst and chiddingstone...

From a speed point of view. This is not supposed to be a training ride. As a result, the risk of getting dropped is likely to be less that the saturday rides..

I am quite up for doing a ride in a few weeks time. I might head down to brighton on a week on sunday, so perhaps we could go on the week after if anyones interested.
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby carl f » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:17 pm

Great idea!
Other local clubs such as Dulwich paragon and london dynamo have sat and sun rides so why not ACC
Penshurst and back is a fav of mine with a stop in the tea rooms there,roughly a three hour round trip
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Toks » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:49 pm

[quote="Andrew G"]
Personally I would say that the Saturday CR is the place if you want the control, Sunday you learn to fend for yourself, either take a map with you or follow signposts if you get lost/dropped. Hey presto you may even find a new bit that you can show people and extend both parties knowledge.

What a complete Meanie. :twisted: Please ignore Andrew, he's turning into his Avatar persona :lol: :lol: Of course there should be a Sunday Club Run. If clubs half the size of ours can manage 2/3 runs a week why can't we. :D
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Andrew G » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:04 pm

[quote="Toks"]What a complete Meanie. :twisted:

How? We're grown ups and should be responsible for ourselves, not need to be shepherded around set routes. One of the greatest joys of cycling is the freedom it gives you and discovering new routes, whether that is by yourself or through remembering routes, or sections of, that you have covered with others. It is also very satisfying being thanked by others you have taken on a ride, or shown a new route, once you have discovered one.
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Dominic » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:24 pm

I completely agree with Andrew even though I know some of the other comments have been made tongue in cheek :D

One of the main things that sticks with me from the last time this topic was raised is the fact that a Sunday club run is a commitment. If it is going to be done then it needs to be every Sunday, obviously leading it could be shared around, without fail so that people know they can turn up and it will be on. I would also say a rough estimate of time would be nice. For family men like me it is nice to be able to say that I will be in by such and such a time.

It will also be interesting to see where it meets up and time. I appreciate that we have members spread over a wide area so I would imagine something that pleases all interested parties may be quite difficult to come up with. Eg for me a meeting place such as Elmers End is pointless as the time I would spend getting there would be much better used to be an hour heading into the surrounding (for me) countryside. Saying that I am probably lucky in that there are several other Sunday club runs near me that I could ride with (if they are willing and happy to let me) :D
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby huw williams » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:24 am

Will there be a training group? :twisted:
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Re: Sunday Club Run

Postby Roy Green » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:10 pm

Personally, I'd back the system that used to prevail in my 1960s clubruns — Devil Take the Hindmost style is fine for some (not for me now, though!) But why any dilemma about what should or should not be the Sunday-runs routine? This Forum (a virtual clubroom discussion panel) is the solution. Just propose a run, start place-time, rough route, pace. If it's not left to the same small handful of proposers, there should be plenty of proposers.
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