An Addiscombe Sportive?

[-Adam-]

You may remember last July I rode to Paris for charity... well, I'm signed up to do it again this year, and I'm taking Boy Wonder Stu with me, so I have a domestique

Anyhow, we each have to raise £1100 in sponsorship for the ride. £550 of which must be banked by the 1st of May. Now firstly I'm a little aversed to asking all the same people to give me another wedge of their cash for doing the same thing. So we have an Idea...

Maybe, just maybe...

We, I.e Addiscombe, well, obviously mainly Stu and I as organisers anyway, could run a sportive to raise money for the event, and the charity, Action Medical Research. http://www.action.org.uk

What do people think?

We are both willing and able to put in the work to get things done. But neither of us really have the relevant organisational experience to do it ourselves. Perhaps the route could be similar to the tosh?

It would be great publicity for the club, and obviously great for the charity. I don't know how much these sportives make but it would surely be a great start for out fundraising?

Just thought I'd put this out to gauge peoples thoughts and ideas anyway. Maybe its too much, but I think It could fantastic to keep the Acc logo in the press, and would be a great way to attract more women into the club perhaps?

[MJ_1993]

Cool, now can we have this [url]http://www.kalaswear.com/promo.html[/url]?

Please come on how cool would that be

Can it be totally flat? That way I don't have to prepare for this. ToSH might put off some people.

If you attempt to get to Paris in a day, then I will definately sponsor you. If not, then take your time but pedalo (sp?) across the channel

[Paul H]

The ACC Sportive is a good idea.

Not convinced that the money should be used to sponsor 2 riders to go on another event though. The charity would benefit more if we sent it straight to them.

[Alan M]

Sounds a great idea Adam, the missing link! That said, it would be worth making it an annual fixture so maybe you should put it forward as a trailblazer and identify support for its continuation in subsequent years. SWRC run 2 per year and they seem to be very popular.

[-Adam-]

[quote="Paul H"]Not convinced that the money should be used to sponsor 2 riders to go on another event though. The charity would benefit more if we sent it straight to them.

[Paul H]

[quote]Why?

[-Adam-]

Ok, thats a negative way to look at it. Theres nothing to say that if I were to raise £1100 through organising a sportive in the name of Addiscombe that I wouldn't then raise anymore money on top of that, I could easily raise £600 through individuals to cover the cost of the 'costs'. I do see your point, I just think that your missing my point.

Money raised from a sportive would be of equal worth in sponsoring two riders to ride to Paris for charity.

Put it this way, Im not asking for Addiscombe to run a sportive and give Stu and I the money so we don't have to raise any money personally. The Idea was that we do as much as we can to make the event happen, with the support of the club for promotion etc. As a way of us raising the money, ourselves, to get to Paris...

[MJ_1993]

I dont see it as a negative approach. I actually it is a good idea that money raised could go to funding riders to race abroad. How about of the profits made (assuming that we make profits that is), comprimise 50-50, half the money goes to Adam and Stu, and the other half goes to investing in club projects.

I see your point Adam, hence why I think after the costs of this event, 50-50 split of profits

[Colin.Steadman]

I think it's a bit of a convoluted approach to create an event to raise money so that (just) 2 people can then go and enter another event to raise money for charity.

If this really is about charity, then give the money raised from the sportif event to charity and be done with it.

[MJ_1993]

That would be unfair on Adam and Stu though. We could give the money raised from the sportive to charity, but then run an Addiscombe CCLondon to Paris. We could also raise money for riders to race abroad doing this. Also it could be open to all riders of all clubs. So another source of revenue from there.

[Alan M]

Mmmmm..... One of the things I most like about this club is the way we tend to give fair weather to enterprising people who are willing to organise stuff. Selfishly I tend to gain more than I give, so am delighted and grateful when, for whatever reason, others take the initiative. In this case we have two nice young guys willing to do the hard work in organising an event. It will be great experience for them and for us. We can learn from this and hopefully bask in the reflected glory of its success. Should we involve ourselves in a reductive discussion about the direction of the proceeds for charity? I think not!

[Andrew G]

It wouldn't be unfair at all Mo, I'd argue that it would be unfair on all the other Addiscombe members who would get no benefit, or have the chance to benefit, from such an exercise. If someone wants to do a sponsored ride then good on them, but using the club to raise money to is not in my opinion. As Paul says a large proportion goes towards the costs. I do not think that the club should be used in this manner and if there was any sort of vote (committee or open) would vote against it.

I'm generally against these sort of sponsored events where people do something they want to do but have the cost of it paid for by others through sponsorship. If you do something for a charity then it should first be a charity you believe in and not just one offering what you want to do (not saying that is the case here), and all the money should go to the charity.

I did a zip slide for charity once, which was something I wanted to do anyway. The minimum was £100 to cover the costs so I sponsored myself £100 so that any money I raised from others went to the charity, which was also one I supported. I appreciate that the cost of this is different but feel the same principle still holds true.

I think an Addiscombe Sportive would be a good idea, but any money generated from it should either go direct to a charity (if it was a charity event), or use the event to raise funds for the club. That money could then be used in a fair manner for any number of things, be that paying race fees, sending talented riders abroad or for B&Bs etc for stage races elsewhere in the UK, paying costs for the club dinner.

[Alan M]

[quote="Andrew G"] I do not think that the club should be used in this manner and if there was any sort of vote (committee or open) would vote against it.

[MJ_1993]

[quote="Andrew G"]It wouldn't be unfair at all Mo, I'd argue that it would be unfair on all the other Addiscombe members who would get no benefit, or have the chance to benefit, from such an exercise. If someone wants to do a sponsored ride then good on them, but using the club to raise money to is not in my opinion.

I'm generally against these sort of sponsored events where people do something they want to do but have the cost of it paid for by others through sponsorship. If you do something for a charity then it should first be a charity you believe in and not just one offering what you want to do (not saying that is the case here), and all the money should go to the charity.


I think an Addiscombe Sportive would be a good idea, but any money generated from it should either go direct to a charity (if it was a charity event), or use the event to raise funds for the club. That money could then be used in a fair manner for any number of things, be that paying race fees, sending talented riders abroad or for B&Bs etc for stage races elsewhere in the UK, paying costs for the club dinner.

[kieran]

had a quick look at the site and I see the tour costs are £545, plus a £99 non refundable fee. 545 seems a lot for 4 days cycling from London to Paris (£136 pounds a day). Anyway good luck with the fund raising.