Fat blokes - there's hope

A Place to idle the day away talking about anything you fancy. Expect to find cycling and non cycling topics inside

Fat blokes - there's hope

Postby huw williams » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:36 pm

Further evidence from next weeks CW* that fat is a better fuel source than expected for endurance events

Geese can fly pretty quickly, unaided by machines with gears for 1000km non stop - which in endurance terms far outperforms any human endurance athlete on the planet, ever.

Compared to chickens - Goose flesh is very much fattier due to a higher content of triglycerides in the muscles. These triglycerides are an important source of energy during excercise.

Pound for pound fat provides more than twice the amount of calories for fuel than Carbohydrate - so in order to carry all the fuel it needed as Glycogen - a goose would be so heavy it wouldn't be able to fly at all leave alone a 1000k

So thats's it for me - Ditching the pasta and I'll see you in the McDonalds queue

Fair enough you might say but when did you ever see a goose win the tour de france or the london marathon?

To which I'd counter when did you last see Ian Munnery fly south for the winter non-stop without using a commercial airline?

Fascinating stuff

*sources - various sports science research papers available on request
User avatar
huw williams
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 2770
Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2002 12:17 pm
Location: Somewhere above Niagra Falls

Postby Richard (Apples) » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:39 pm

Yeah but geese dont fly uphill do they
Richard Appleton
Richard (Apples)
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 442
Joined: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:25 pm
Location: Tooting

Postby Snoop Doug » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:40 pm

Neither does Ian :twisted:
Snoop Doug
 

Postby huw williams » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:40 pm

You're just not taking this seriously are you Apples? :D
User avatar
huw williams
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 2770
Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2002 12:17 pm
Location: Somewhere above Niagra Falls

Postby Mike I » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:48 pm

I put this to the test last year by feasting on potatoes roasted in goose fat between October and May and then doing the Dragon Ride. The results were, I'm afraid, tasty but inconclusive.
User avatar
Mike I
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 1454
Joined: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:35 am
Location: Tooting

Postby kieran » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:54 pm

em, from my visits to thw wet lands centre and information from my fact addicted son I don't recall geese being the fastest birds in the sky, I thought the problem wiv fat was speed of access to its stored energy?
User avatar
kieran
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 1626
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:18 am
Location: Tír na nÓg

Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:57 pm

This all sounds a bit fishy to me - slightly quackers
Guru P
User avatar
mrP(Boonen)VT
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 4430
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 9:10 pm
Location: kitchen chair

Postby Richard (Apples) » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:03 pm

Ok on a more serious note :roll: :roll:

Im a right in thinking that when the body runs out of carbs as an energy source and starts to convert fat to energy...this is bonking

or is it honking
Richard Appleton
Richard (Apples)
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 442
Joined: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:25 pm
Location: Tooting

Postby Andrew G » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:05 pm

bonking. Honking is out the saddle wrestling your bike up a hill.

Never confuse a bonk with a honk.
Andrew G
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 10477
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:47 pm
Location: Selsdon

Postby Stu Merckx Man » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:08 pm

when riding at about 65% of your max heart rate you are running on fat not carbs.

but when riding hard, then running out of carbs, and suddenly your into fat, thats bonking...i should know :lol: :wink:
Stu Merckx Man
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 1850
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:02 pm
Location: coulsdon

Postby Grahame » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:09 pm

Wasn't the finish of the club roadrace championship (slightly) uphill?

Wasn't the winner of the B race a notorious bloater? :oops:
Grahame
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 1636
Joined: Thu Dec 04, 2003 12:27 pm
Location: On the highway to hell (and I've not even told my mum when I'll be back)

Postby Snoop Doug » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:19 pm

[quote="Grahame"]Wasn't the finish of the club roadrace championship (slightly) uphill?

Wasn't the winner of the B race a notorious bloater? :oops:


I have just devised an excellent and instant weight loss programme. I pi55ed myself laughing when I saw this :shock: :roll: Nice one Grahame
Snoop Doug
 

Postby Tony » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:21 pm

Funnily enough I've been considering recently whether to make a serious attempt to bloat out. However, where do you start? There's lots of books, info and reference material about becoming fitter, leaner and meaner. You can also get coaches, health assessments and all the advice you'll ever need. But what is there for people that want to look like Andy Fordham? How would I get to the following target BMIs:

To achieve a BMI of 40 kg/m2 (morbidly obese), I'd only need to bloat to about 18 st 8 ibs;
To achieve a BMI of 50 kg/m2 (super morbidly obese), I'd need to bloat to about 23 st 3 ibs;
To achieve a BMI of 60 kg/m2 (super super morbidly obese), I'd need to bloat to about 27 st 12 ibs;

Is there a safer way of getting this fat with lower risk of blocked arteries, strokes, etc.? What determines the maximum weight I could get to? How long would it take? Would I still be able to win the club Hill Climb Championship?
User avatar
Tony
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 370
Joined: Mon Dec 30, 2002 4:58 pm

Postby Paul H » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:22 pm

[quote]when riding at about 65% of your max heart rate you are running on fat not carbs.


Its not that simple. Your would be lucky if 50% was on fat.
Paul H
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 1648
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:26 pm
Location: Coulsdon

Postby Jon H » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:23 pm

A fat bloke sitting near me at work has recently started going to the gym, so I asked him if he's got a six-pack yet. He replied that he's got a whole crate :lol:
User avatar
Jon H
lives on this board 24/7!!!
 
Posts: 3392
Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2002 1:30 pm
Location: Bromley

Next

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 64 guests

cron