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by tel » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:26 pm
I would like some opinions from the coaching types on the forum.
I think that maybe age might be catching up fast.
Although I can roll around on the flat at an acceptable speed, when it comes to a hill it is becoming an embarressment.
I`ve tried doing repeats of Box but that doesn`t seem to work.
I`m reluctant to try any gym work but would obviously consider it but I much prefer my bike as a training mode.
Thanks in anticipation.
Terry
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by Paul H » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:12 pm
How about building strength on the bike e.g. 10 x 30secs 2mins rest
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by Phil H » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:21 pm
Paul, aren't you a qualified coach now? Do you have special rates for your loyal clubmates? Want to buy an ad on the website?
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by Paul H » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:26 am
I'm not qualified or want to do coaching.
Happy to give advice though

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by tel » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:48 am
Paul
Just seen your post-will factor in your session.
Thanks for your advice.
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by Antloony » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:47 pm
I'm the same as you Tel. I just blame it on having the wrong muscle type and being big boned

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by Dominic » Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:32 pm
[quote="Paul H"]How about building strength on the bike e.g. 10 x 30secs 2mins rest
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Why is that better than longer efforts? Is it because it will be flat out?
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by Paul H » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:17 pm
The are not better - it depends on what your limiters are.
If you do these in a big gear and low cadence (if your knees are ok) it should build leg strength. Longer intervals will be more aerobic.
You can do a power test again to see what your limiters are if you like

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by Dominic » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:36 pm
[quote="Paul H"]
You can do a power test again to see what your limiters are if you like

That sounds like a challenge

I'm sure they won't be that different from the last time you tortured, sorry tested me. Only that I am a lot unfitter!
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by Toks » Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:07 am
[quote="tel"]I would like some opinions from the coaching types on the forum.
Hey Tel, I'm not a coach but I'll have a go
[quote="tel"]
I think that maybe age might be catching up fast.
No way mate,you're still a youngster. Check out this fella:
http://www.chicoer.com/ci_25039221/this ... y-might-be[quote="tel"]
Although I can roll around on the flat at an acceptable speed, when it comes to a hill it is becoming an embarressment.
Hmm... are you sure? I reckon if hills are clearly slowing you down and you haven't turned into a porker you may well not be as fit as you previously were. Don't forget in the right 'conditions' its easy to think you're whizzing along on the flat (20-22mph) and in reality you're only putting out a mediocre 160-180- watts
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Ive tried doing repeats of Box but that doesn`t seem to work.
You don't need me to tell you that to get fitter/faster/develop more power you'll need to increase one or a combination of the following:
Duration (ride for longer - 4,5 hours?),
Frequency (ride more often -, 4,5,6 times per week?),
Intensity (ride harder - intervals/training group/hill repeats/ 2x 20's etc) and
Rest (possibly, are you doing too much?). Putting those things together in some sort of plan is where a coach would earn his/her money.
Perhaps the biggest thing to consider is MOTIVATION. You've got to really commit to these session/workouts/rides and usually you need to do it for at least 6-8 weeks before you see some improvement to your fitness levels. Assuming you're riding them at slightly about race pace those Box Hill repeats are pretty tough and I for one have never been able to commit to them for longer than a couple of weeks. Some Research suggests the gains to be made for older riders (VO2max improvements) are quite small but that might be all ya need.
There are many ways to skin the training cat! If you were to push me on it I think for time crunched cyclists - threshold efforts/TT pace of 15-30mins twice per week are absolutely invaluable. We're all different and we all respond differently the intervals Paul suggest I'm not personally a fan of but lots of people swear by them so knock ya self out. Remember the old adage though - if you do the same old training you're gonna get the same old results. So there ya go I look forward to hearing that your now doing
2 sets of 2 x 20's a week
1 ride with the 20mph/training group per week
70 mile ride per week on the front with the Over The Hill GangWhatever you do the main thing is to enjoy riding ya bike so forget everything I've said
