Why do zone training on the club run?????

[Antloony]

Yeh come on Toks, spill the beans and get the gossip going, who's been a naughty boy and sent you some evil pm's.

I was going to ask on here for some training advice but I think I'll go buy a book and find out for myself, might be safer and not cause another out break of training rage.

[Daniel Gee]

its easy ant,

training group on saturdays & when it starts up on wednesday evenings the chaingang-thats all you need to do & by march you'll be flying!

then once you have a season's racing under your belt you'll know where & what you need to develop & you can make up your mind about the degree to which you're prepared to commit to this nonsense.

in the meantime I wouldn't worry too much about this training lark.

[Paul H]

Youve made youself a target now Dan.

[Daniel Gee]

really? thats a worry

I'll keep an eye out 4 the death threats!

[Andrew G]

[quote="Antloony"]I was going to ask on here for some training advice but I think I'll go buy a book and find out for myself, might be safer and not cause another out break of training rage.

[Dominic]

[quote="Daniel Gee"]

training group on saturdays & when it starts up on wednesday evenings the chaingang-thats all you need to do & by march you'll be flying!

Damn, someone else is using my training plan Don't forget, take it easy in between, rest well, eat well and don't catch too many bugs, nice and simple

[Jon H]

[quote="Dominic"]Don't forget, take it easy in between, rest well, eat well...

[Andrew G]

I'm very good at the eating, drinking, and resting so do I need to bother with any of the other stuff?

[Antloony]

[quote="Daniel Gee"]its easy ant,

training group on saturdays & when it starts up on wednesday evenings the chaingang-thats all you need to do & by march you'll be flying!

then once you have a season's racing under your belt you'll know where & what you need to develop & you can make up your mind about the degree to which you're prepared to commit to this nonsense.

in the meantime I wouldn't worry too much about this training lark.

[Robh]

Perhaps your physiology make up is different to these guys Ant? Look at Rob Wright riding for 1 year and has already 250W @ LBP.

Like Juerg pointed out in another thread why do certain people show faster structural changes with exactly the same stressor whereas in other people there's a breakdown of the systems.

I sure 99% these 2 guys have been riding HR's a lot higher than they were riding last Saturday.

Why have these guys not improved - Mark 10 months and Sean 3 years? You tell me as you have program that has worked for you, will it work for them?

Both Mark & Sean who don't have a coach will need to recognise when they are seeing no more improvements to change their programme.

[Dominic]

May I dare say consistency

10 months is nothing and if Mark keeps at it, at whatever level he does he will see improvements.

If Sean has not had a consistent programme for those 3 years then he will see improvements. From what he has described in his posts about Taiwan he did not cycle consistently then.

I have been a cyclist all my life. However, not all the time, when I string it together for a few years then I seem to perform at a level that is acceptable to me.

Is that too simplistic

[quote="Robh"]Perhaps your physiology make up is different to these guys Ant? Look at Rob Wright riding for 1 year and has already 250W @ LBP.

[Juerg FaCT]

Hallo Sean , Mark and Michelle ( and Rob )
If you like I would enjoy to give you a training proposal based on the test results from FaCT
FaCT is a trest idea not a training idea, but we use the test result to develop some kind of a control workout situation over a certain time.
Here my proposal :
Sent the full FaCT resuylt and the following anwers I need to know.
1. How many hours do your wokr out /week.
2. How are this ours set druing the week ( what days and how long )
3. When do you ride in a group as in your case the team you are in .
4. What day time do you work out
5. When is normally your last food intake prior to the training and when after the workout.
6. What kind of other sport you do besides biking.
( hours of workout include on the bike hours , but tell me wjhat other workouts and hours you may train besides biking and if yes what kind of sport.
7. Tell me your latest Fit test number , if Rob did one of theis tests with his polar watch.
Now I will sent the proposal to Rob as well , as well as to your e - mail adress.
If you are interested in thsi mail to factquestions@hotmail. com
I will give you further details there with some short versions of assessments you can do at home or with Rob. Cheers Juerg

[Robh]

[quote="Antloony"]
You want my honest opinion, they're not trying hard enough, bloody slackers . Seriously though, my worry with them is that all this riding around slowly won't help them at this stage build any strength. I'm still a firm believer that a hard intense ride where they push themselves way out of their comfort zones will benefit them more at this stage than pottering around like a pair of old women popping down to the corner shop. Surely they're better off getting to a similar stage to Rob W's and myselfs before looking at fine tuning training. Isn't it better to have a firm foundation to work from rather than tryng to create something solid built on quicksand? Am I making sense?

[Robh]

[quote="Sean Hogan - 何祥"]I'll be getting back to Juerg shortly.