test your fitness

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test your fitness

Postby Alan M » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:38 am

I am passing this on to interested parties.

Enjoy and tell us about the experience!

Alan

Please see below the details of Performance testing that I am
offering for free as part of my MSc Research.

Cycling Performance Assessment: Physiology
Roehampton University

Opportunity for competitive level cyclists, male, aged 18-35.

The assessment involves one visit to Roehampton University SPARC laboratory
lasting 3-4 hours during which time two maximal cycle performance tests will
be undertaken.

The tests will completed on cycle ergometers equipped with power meters and
connected to respiratory analysis. Subjects will be analysed for
physiological responses providing feedback on VO2max, threshold point and
relative power outputs which can be fantastic for use in training and
competition.

The assessment is free of charge as it forms research for an MSc Sports
Science thesis.

Assessments will take place on the weeks beginning 7th and 14th April,
weekdays, time slots are flexible. If you are interesting in taking part or
require further information please contact Lloyd Hooper (details below).

lloydhooper@hotmail.com
Mob: 07814473234
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Re: test your fitness

Postby huw williams » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:26 pm

Good work Alan - and I'd highly reccomend anyone who's at all interested in racing gets this done while its free (unless, like me and Alan your past it :( )

On a related subject, as part of my own coaching qualification I will shortly be posting details of a series of ACC training sessions which will be open to riders around the 18-20mph group ability who want to improve, move up to the training groups or start racing.

Suffice to say that if you've had this test done the information gained will be of great value in determining your current levels of ability and what you need to do to improve on it.

So if you can find time to take the test - your already a step higher on the ladder :D
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Re: test your fitness

Postby mlocke » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:50 pm

Cheers Alan

I have emailed saying that I am interested and askign for more ifnormation. I and am awaiting a response.

Since Ajay's 'average' thread I have been meaning to look into getting one of these tests done as the information would be very interesting and hopefully useful.

Huw, I would be interested in taking part in something, do you have any additonal info on what you plan to do?

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Re: test your fitness

Postby Alan M » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:18 pm

Yes Huw, we're too old to be a test subjects but maybe I am just a tad relieved. What day do you plan to hold any training sessions?
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Re: test your fitness

Postby kieran » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:22 pm

too old as well, humph, what criteria did he use to set the upper age limit? maybe I could be an outlier.
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Re: test your fitness

Postby huw williams » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:43 pm

[quote="Alan M"]Yes Huw, we're too old to be a test subjects but maybe I am just a tad relieved. What day do you plan to hold any training sessions?


Saturdays and Sundays: 4 x 3-hour sessions on Newdigate course plus one or two 1-hour theory sessions venue TBA
Aimed at informing riders what they need to do to train properly as opposed to riding their bikes aimlessly. Personally I quite liked riding my bike aimlessly, I've made a carreer out of it, but that's not going to make me or anyone else a much better rider. So, in order to gain my coache's certificate I have to lead some structured sessions (group and individual) so I get a licence and you get free coaching, everybody's happy :D

(Re)covering some basics then on to more advanced stuff. Don't worry about missing a couple of club runs if they're on saturdays because you'll be working at a higher level doing this :twisted: And because it's on a road circuit, with laps, you don't have to worry about getting dropped.

Just in the planning stage now and starting soon - watch this space
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Re: test your fitness

Postby Sylv » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:20 pm

He's gonna get more than he bargained for - sent my email at 11.30am :D

Thank Alan will let you know if it works out
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Re: test your fitness

Postby Ivor » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:10 pm

[quote]aged 18-35.

bah. :(
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Re: test your fitness

Postby Antloony » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:11 pm

yeah Im to old as well...can I lie about my age and pretend to be 35.

Certainly interested in Mr Williams training sessions though. After 5 months of cycling I think I would benefit from some training methods and know how.....unless Im to old for this to :(
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Re: test your fitness

Postby huw williams » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:37 pm

If I can hobble to the line I'm sure you can :D
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Re: test your fitness

Postby -Adam- » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:15 pm

Yes, its useful info... However... one test is of limited use. What you want is 2-3 tests over a few months with some set idea of training, and then a decent measure of your bodies response by the results of the second and third tests.

Which is what I'm doing for and at Kent Uni 8)

Marco, this might be a good opportunity to find out your Haematocrit level! You'll probably have to ask them to do it, but I'm sure they won't mind. Also, try to get them to do the test using blood lactate samples too. That way you get your real threshold power. And none of these mildly eductated guesses done by doing 20 minute tests or what have you.
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Re: test your fitness

Postby -Adam- » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:45 pm

This is what it's like...

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But thoroughly enjoyable all the same :?
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Re: test your fitness

Postby Robh » Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:31 pm

[quote="-Adam-"]Marco, this might be a good opportunity to find out your Haematocrit level! You'll probably have to ask them to do it, but I'm sure they won't mind. Also, try to get them to do the test using blood lactate samples too. That way you get your real threshold power. And none of these mildly eductated guesses done by doing 20 minute tests or what have you.


Is it real threshold power from your test? Some food for thought from another person's perspective who doesn't think from a text book :-

Lactate threshold: There may be as much confusion around this term, as there are definitions. Some people talk in the same explanations of lactate threshold and anaerobic threshold and so on. As we all may agree, as exercise intensity increases, so does the energy production in need to get enough ATP for further maintaining the performance. Now here it is where we often discuss in different world's why Intensity is increasing so does the lactate production. Now depending on how we test the lactate in the step test ( length of steps , we will see a different developing of the so called lactate curve.If you make a step test with 1 min step length you will see a different lactate curve , compared to a test with the same person with 5 min step length. If you overlap this 2 lactate curves you will see that very clear.

The definition of lactate threshold is: The point at which lactate begins to increase exponentially is called the lactate threshold. Okay you will be the judge where it may be in the simple 2 test suggestions I gave above.

This situation lead to some other definitions of lactate threshold : like using absolute values, where people claim, that as soon you have a jump of 1 mmol/L lactate you hit the lactate threshold. Again try on your own with 2 tests. Repeat the above test's or add during a test a simple carb drink to it and see what happens. Okay people who had this as a discussion decided to make a tangent against the lactate curve and some decided that by 45 degree angle that is the individual lactate threshold. Others took it more into details and ended up with different degrees of 50.9 and more. For us it was the easiest to look at just simply the trend. 1. Is lactate increasing or is it decreasing. Increasing in case of an intensity , which demands an ATP production higher than oxygen dependent energy production can easily handle and some parts of the involved muscles had to reach to oxygen independent energy production for help and as one marker we see an increase of lactate in the blood. Is the energy demand reduced and the ATP production can be handled nicely with oxygen dependent energy supply the lactate will drop again , as it will be used as well as a nice energy supplier. Now when lactate increases we often ( not always ) see an decrease in pH ( increase of H+ due to oxygen independent energy production in some areas of the involved muscles.
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Re: test your fitness

Postby -Adam- » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:14 pm

I'm not a doctor, and I don't read text books. But from my last test report here is two definitions of what I was given:

[quote]Lactate Threshold
Lactate threshold is described as an inflection point above baseline in the lactate curve. It represents the start of lactate accumulation in the blood. However at this point your body and muscles can still oxidise it.

Lactate turnpoint represents the intensity above which your body can no longer deal with the lactate build up and so an excess starts to occur in the muscle which is then reflected in the blood. Eventually this causes muscle contraction to fatigue, unless the intensity of the exercise is reduced. The represents the ceiling of your aerobic exercise capabilities.
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Re: test your fitness

Postby Robh » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:38 am

Adam,

Reagrding the text book comment I didn't me you I was referring to University people who do the testing.

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