Training programme

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Training programme

Postby CaroleH » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:26 pm

Can anyone provide me with a training programme? I'm at a loss as to where to begin and so it just doesn't happen. I have access to a gym (love the spinning classes!!! - hate turbo trainers!!!!) and can do most evenings out and about!!!! Please help, I read the books on it all and still haven't got a clue how to devise something.

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Re: Training programme

Postby Ivor » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:34 pm

There's been a few discussed in cycling weekly recently and I believe there's a bit more detail in the CW health and fitness special (although I haven't seen it yet). I suppose it depends what are you aiming for? do you have any particular targets/goals?
[quote]hate turbo trainers

? that's crazy talk. love your turbo....
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Re: Training programme

Postby Andrew G » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:44 pm

[quote="orv"][quote]hate turbo trainers

? that's crazy talk. love your turbo....

I'm with you Carole , they are the work of the devil.
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Re: Training programme

Postby Stu Merckx Man » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:11 pm

ride long and hard!
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Re: Training programme

Postby Marky Mark » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:14 pm

Use the force Luke 8)
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Re: Training programme

Postby Ivor » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:01 pm

[quote="Andrew G"][quote="orv"][quote]hate turbo trainers

? that's crazy talk. love your turbo....

I'm with you Carole , they are the work of the devil.

nah, just fine when it's all setup and you've got your TV remotes, drinks snacks and popcorn to hand... er hold on am I doing it wrong then?
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Re: Training programme

Postby CaroleH » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:33 pm

Right so what I need to do is ride like a man possessed, eat popcorn and carress the turbo whilst watching the goggle box :shock: :shock: !!!!! Bloody brilliant advice!! So I should be winning races this year then :D :D :D

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Re: Training programme

Postby Sarah_M » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:29 pm

Hi Carole,
I am the most inexperienced here so not the right one to answer. However, I bought the Cycling Weekly Spring issue of Health and Fitness for Cyclists. It is a quarterly special from WH Smith and has 3 training programmes - a beginner, expert (every day and heaps of hours) and a 7 hour a week one. I am integrating aspects of the expert one into the 7 hour a week one and using that as the cycling component of my triathlon training. It is worth a look. The Summer one comes out on May 30th and, if you subscribe, you get a home training DVD :)
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Re: Training programme

Postby Andrew G » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:22 pm

[quote="Carole H"]Right so what I need to do is ride like a man possessed

Don't worry it's the same as a woman possessed, you just don't listen or follow directions.

As Orv said it will depend on what you are aiming for. 10s and 25s? Is there a particular target event, or a time you want to get to.

A few simple steps would be when you can make CRs to go with the group up from where you can ride with some comfort so that you push yourself. Let the group leader know you've stepped up before you set off and that you may need to sit in occaisionally so missing a turn, just call a double rotate when you get to the front. I found that I push myself much harder to stay with a group than when on my tod where it can be easier to give in when your legs start screaming at you.

On club 10s you could ask Jon if you can ride it as a 2-up and ask someone a bit quicker than you to ride with you. You could Jack n' Jill (or Jill n' Jill) it with them really pushing you to hold on, the carrot of a wheel right in front of you. Or you could ride as a true 2-up, rotating turns either after a certain distance on the front or at certain time intervals. This way you'll again be able to push yourself harder as you do your turn on the front and then get a slight recovery when on the wheel. Do push yourself though and make sure the other person is a reasonable amount quicker than you as they'll be able to moderate their pace to the required level better than if they are too close to their limit.

Another possibility is to find yourself a nice safe loop (quiet roads and simple left turns with no dodgy junctions) and do test rides or intervals on it. Make the loop a reasonable length, say 3-5 miles and ideally with a bit or a drag on it somewhere, and you can do a warm up lap then hammer it round as hard as you can, then recover for a lap (or two maybe at the start) spinning very low gears. You could use this for intervals, but also ride it fresh now and again so you can see how your improving based on the improvements in your time.

Make sure you factor in some proper rest as well though, I think conventional wisdom is a 3 weeks hard, 1 week easy cycle if you are start training hard.

Someone will probably tell you that I'm too old fashioned though and to do something else :D :wink: . It depends how you want to train as well though as some exercises may be very effective, but if you hate doing them it might spoil your enjoyment of cycling and then may become counter-productive.
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Re: Training programme

Postby Ivor » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:28 pm

[quote="Andrew G"]Someone will probably tell you that I'm too old fashioned though and to do something else

I'm sure someone will be along in a minute muttering something about watts and power. :)
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Re: Training programme

Postby Snoop Doug » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:20 pm

Keep a training diary. Great to track improvements and record learning. Also good for when you're feeling a bit flat, hav a look back and see the improvements - gives you a lift.

Good luck

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PS - and yes, love your turbo :evil:
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Re: Training programme

Postby Marky Mark » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:24 am

Love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo, love my turbo :wink: ,
I feel better, now.
Keeping records Really does help. I feel the same now as when I started but my heart rate has come down alot in only 3 months and it does notice on the club run and even silly things like running up stairs :shock: .
Also fantastic advice from Andrew G about the double rotation. I made the mistake of going up a group and thinking I would ruin their ride if I missed my turn at the front. I fell of the pack after an hour and felt very down for not being ably to stay with them. I should of stayed inside the pack for a few weeks to improve my strength and endurance. They would of helped me but my pride stopped me from asking for help. This club is great at helping, but you have to let them. I might also try the small loop thingy, sounds good.

All the best, Marky Mark
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Re: Training programme

Postby CaroleH » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:38 pm

Some good advice. Definately should keep a training diary, although not done ought to put in it :( Went out with the 17s on Saturday. Not too painful. Just never know what I should be doing, when to do it etc. Will try the good advice from yourselves (and Toks :lol: ) Thanks guys.
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Re: Training programme

Postby Marky Mark » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:59 am

I don't think you need training. You are a very strong consistant rider, that was the best run on Saturday, the weather, the company, the ice cream, the hill :lol: , the whole day......... Loved it
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