Off Season Training Myths

[Paul H]

[url]http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=6366[/url]

[Robh]

Just as well FaCT isn't about LSD training...

[Michelle]

So it did seem like the guy who was talking about long slow triaing ( 6 hours at 16mph) could have been talking about BI STF zone training if you wanted to describe it in a few words to someone.

Whats the difference, then between what this guy was talking about and FaCT training?

[Robh]

[quote="Michelle"]So it did seem like the guy who was talking about long slow triaing ( 6 hours at 16mph) could have been talking about BI STF zone training if you wanted to describe it in a few words to someone.

Whats the difference, then between what this guy was talking about and FaCT training?

[Michelle]

But I couldn't understand the Endurance Training thread because Juerg wirtes so poorly, I got hacked off with trying to understand what he was saying because he doesn't put it into ways that a layperson can understand, and I gave up trying.

Perhaps you could summarise in a well written easy to understand way?

[Robh]

Poor manl! He is Swiss...

One should not paint the brush that the FaCT philosophy is that long slow training is the only way to develop great cyclists. The philosophy remains...
1) understand phsyiology
2) use proven testing to help identify weaknesses
3) develop training that specifically addresses the weakness
4) retest to measure progress and effectiveness of the program
5) share the ideas with others

[Andrew G]

[quote="Michelle"]So it did seem like the guy who was talking about long slow trianing ( 6 hours at 16mph)

[quote="Andrew G"][quote="Michelle"]So it did seem like the guy who was talking about long slow trianing ( 6 hours at 16mph)

[Toks]

[quote="Robh"]Poor manl! He is Swiss...

One should not paint the brush that the FaCT philosophy is that long slow training is the only way to develop great cyclists. The philosophy remains...
1) understand phsyiology
2) use proven testing to help identify weaknesses
3) develop training that specifically addresses the weakness
4) retest to measure progress and effectiveness of the program
5) share the ideas with others

[quote="Toks"][quote="Robh"]Poor manl! He is Swiss...

One should not paint the brush that the FaCT philosophy is that long slow training is the only way to develop great cyclists. The philosophy remains...
1) understand phsyiology
2) use proven testing to help identify weaknesses
3) develop training that specifically addresses the weakness
4) retest to measure progress and effectiveness of the program
5) share the ideas with others

[quote="Toks"][quote="Robh"]Poor manl! He is Swiss...

One should not paint the brush that the FaCT philosophy is that long slow training is the only way to develop great cyclists. The philosophy remains...
1) understand phsyiology
2) use proven testing to help identify weaknesses
3) develop training that specifically addresses the weakness
4) retest to measure progress and effectiveness of the program
5) share the ideas with others

[Robh]

And Juerg's response :-

1. Andrew , thanks to his english, made a very nice short summary on FaCT philosophy.
Here some very short additional thoughts..
An athlete , who trains over years and years LSD and changes now to a higher intensity will change the stimmulation to his system and will have a nice fast responds ( also thanks to a nice base he set over years. )
An athlete, who trains hard and intense and now suddently changes to LSD will see a nice relative fast change in performance thanks to the change in the stimmulus.
Remember adaptation is a dialectic contradiction. You make progress thanks to adapatation, you stop progress thanks to adaptation.
The FaCT idea is nothing others as a simple assessment system , to find out how long adapatation works as progress , and when adapatation starts to hinder further progress.
So there is a very simple system here , where we use simple testing ideas and check the main systems like cardio , respiratory, CNS and metabolic system to name the most common one and compare the adaptation in each of them and how they interact to each other.
Using wattage (power ) is testing the overall performance of all this system together. So less power means one or 2 or all of the above system changed the respond on adaptation . Which one of them.?
Improving wattage tells you , that one of the above system, perhaps 2 , or all of them improved thanks to a positive adaptation. well perhaps 3 improved and one got worse ? how do we know ?. Perhaps one is getting so bad that it is just a question of time till the rest has to follow or visa versa.
In a relatively balanced body we will find ideas like VT ( ventilatory threshold ) LT ( lactate threshold ) true O2 utilization and so on close together , and they fail close together.( this is why some people beleive LT and VT are the same.) I can show you interesting case studies, where we fatigued the respiratory system very hard, and the VT and LT where very far apart , resp. there was no LT at all.
Not just because there is no LT anyway , there is no anaerobic situation during a step test , the PO2 is always perfect. )
Because of very specific training ideas, one or the other system may be a head of the rest and if we not adjust the rest the benefit you gained on the strongest one will be lost soon again due to negative adapatation.

[Robh]

Get the gist folks?

[Toks]

[quote="Robh"]Just as well FaCT isn't about LSD training...

[Toks]

[quote="Robh"]Poor manl! He is Swiss...

One should not paint the brush that the FaCT philosophy is that long slow training is the only way to develop great cyclists.