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Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Toks » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:09 pm

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/sports/cycling/29cycling.htm?_r=1]Armstrong[/url]
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Mike I » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:09 am

[quote="Sean Hogan"][url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703964104575334812419976690.html]the plot thickens ...[/url] :twisted:


Not really - no self-respecting cyclist ever thinks he has enough bikes :wink: .
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Roy Green » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:20 pm

I don't like Landis. Never have liked Landis. Whatever the truth about Armstrong and others that may come out, I cannot beleive anything Landis says. Landis statements seem to be those of a poisonous git. So there.
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Dombo » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:54 pm

I have to agree with Roy.
Landis can say what he wants, he has nothing to lose. Poisonous little cheating scumbag
He's like the kid nobody wants to play with so he punctures their ball.
As for LA, innocent til proven guilty as far as I'm concerned, whatever our resident amateur haematologist may deduce from Landis' poisonous spewings.
Offer still stands, Marco - a cup of tea and a slice of your favourite accompanying sarny or cake should the bee in your bonnet prove to be of substance.
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Dominic » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:01 pm

[quote="Dombo"]I have to agree with Roy.
As for LA, innocent til proven guilty as far as I'm concerned


To what standard? The reason I ask is that if it was in this country as I am sure you know there are two:

1) beyond reasonable doubt - criminal

2) on the balance of probability - civil

If the case is heard in an American court, who seem to have lots of different types of rulings, and for instance the ruling were akin to 2. Is that enough? Or would you want a 1?
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Postby Mike I » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:18 pm

[quote="Dominic"][quote="Dombo"]I have to agree with Roy.
As for LA, innocent til proven guilty as far as I'm concerned


To what standard? The reason I ask is that if it was in this country as I am sure you know there are two:

1) beyond reasonable doubt - criminal

2) on the balance of probability - civil

If the case is heard in an American court, who seem to have lots of different types of rulings, and for instance the ruling were akin to 2. Is that enough? Or would you want a 1?


3) the standard of proof required on an internet forum.
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby nick de meyer » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:31 pm

facts...? none seen yet, all speculation and too circumstantial, landis is just throwing his toys out the pram as he has no one to go cycling with anymore, as he's listened to the "drugs don't work anymore" by the verve and is looking for some form of repressed retribution for losing his title, thats my opinion anyway
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby -Adam- » Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:49 am

Capone ordered the Valentines Day Massacre, but got sent down for tax evasion.

I can see Armstrong going to prison for Sporting Fraud, not doping...

On a purely selfish note, it would be the best possible thing that could happen for me. Unless of course he is actually clean of course, which I doubt... reasonably!
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Dombo » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:13 am

[quote="Dominic"][quote="Dombo"]I have to agree with Roy.
As for LA, innocent til proven guilty as far as I'm concerned


To what standard? The reason I ask is that if it was in this country as I am sure you know there are two:

1) beyond reasonable doubt - criminal

2) on the balance of probability - civil

If the case is heard in an American court, who seem to have lots of different types of rulings, and for instance the ruling were akin to 2. Is that enough? Or would you want a 1?


The same standard that found the others guilty, Vino, Tyler, Landis, etc, p1$$ in a jar, tests positive; then draw some blood, still positive? Game over.
And Marco gets his tea and cake on me.
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Paul H » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:24 am

Do people think LA is doping for this Tour? It would be a big unecessary risk and yet he seems to be going well. Should be an interesting Tour.
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Snoop Doug » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:15 am

[quote="Dombo"]The same standard that found the others guilty, Vino, Tyler, Landis, etc, p1$$ in a jar, tests positive; then draw some blood, still positive? Game over.
And Marco gets his tea and cake on me.


Marco - a word of warning, if Dombo offers you a jam jar of tea - I'd pass :lol: :lol: :lol: cos he might've already :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Dombo » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:57 pm

Yadda, yadda. Well, I'm no expert on the tests so I'll accept whatever protocols the UCI deems appropriate. It's their sport and they can ban/test whom they like for what they like. And if they're good enough for the UCI they're good enough for me.
And if I don't like it, I can f*** off and watch something else.

Finally Marco, if you win the tea and cake, I promise you will be able to watch it poured fresh from the urn in the cafe; I won't be handing over any steaming jam jars :lol:
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Ben » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:53 pm

I think Fignon's recent book is pretty good, if you like to read it, as it is.

Apparently this is what a good high end program involves

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=8462
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Sylv » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:19 am

How could they not go with "Le Cav' se rebiffe" .. (literally - the idiot fights back)

[img]http://laternamagika.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/affiche-le-cave-se-rebiffe-1961-1.jpg[/img]
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Re: Tour De France 2010: Tough times ahead for...

Postby Dominic » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:48 am

Although not directly linked to THIS tour, I am surprised that nobody has commented on this:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pevenag ... olvement-1
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