2010 Club AGM - 8th December

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2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Andrew G » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:25 pm

Notice is hereby given that the
[size=150]83rd Annual General Meeting[/size]
of the
[size=150]Addiscombe Cycling Club[/size]
will be held at
[size=150]The Christ Church Methodist Hall, 114 Lower Addiscombe Road, Croydon CR0 6AD [/size]
on
[size=150]Wednesday 8 December 2010 commencing 8.30pm[/size]

Any proposed alteration to the rules shall be forwarded to the General Secretary, Paul Tunnell by 10 November 2010.

Paul.tunnell [at] landg [dot] com
(Replace the [at] and [dot] as per normal but this is to avoid Paul getting clobbered by spammers grabbing his address.)

All are welcome, but only fully paid 1st claim members are entitled to vote.

Please try to attend - this is your chance to influence how your club is run.

If anyone wishes to stand for any position within the club please let Paul know. Positions will be read out during the meeting for nomination, seconding and voting.
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Snoop Doug » Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:39 pm

Hello folks. I thought I should post here what I've sent a copy of to the committee today.

Cheers - Snoop

[quote]Hello all, I hope I’ve included everyone on this email who is a current member of the ACC committee? Apologies if I have missed anyone.

For some time now I’ve been considering whether or not to put myself forward for the job of club captain. I’m not doing this as a criticism of anyone, and certainly not of Monty under whose leadership (and with the help of many others) the club has stabilised and grown. I think it’s important for people to have a choice sometimes and we’ve not that choice for a long time, so I’m going to do so. I am hoping that by doing so I may also encourage others to stand and indeed Amy has said she will do so and I wish her well and thank her for doing so.

What has motivated me to do this?

In simple terms I think the club would benefit from more encouragement. For example, the CR is fine, and so are the alternative rides others choose to organise. It's not one or the other it's what folk want to support and organise together and do. Let's just encourage people to participate in cycling, and to participate in making the ACC club runs enjoyable and optional.

I think communications matters. I would bring back the lanterne rouge (or similar) and just try to weave that together with forum and web and other web sites and local paper too. I think that would encourage more involvement in and with the club.

A little more focus on racing, or competing generally could be fun and useful too. And I think learning from other clubs could be really interesting too. Not only on the competing side, more generally as well.

I'm hesitant to go beyond that as we've not yet seen the output from the club survey.

I'm motivated to help make ACC as good, as inclusive and as encouraging as it would like to be. I have experience of this kind of thing from my world of work, I enjoy this kind of challenge, and working with people and helping them get the best from folks genuinely motivates and excites me.

I realise that from a Coulsdon/Charlwood perspective I’ve not been visible of late (think I’ve only done the ride twice this year). So to avoid doubt, if this does proceed I would make Coulsdon the start point of any rides I organised and where I would join other rides I participate in. I would also expect to be at Charlwood quite often though I would probably get there via routes other than the A23, simply because I don’t enjoy cycling down it.

I hope you don’t mind me writing to you about this but I didn’t want to just turn up at the AGM and try to hijack it in any form.

Very happy to take questions, and constructive criticism is most welcome.
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Paul H » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:55 pm

Sounds good Doug.

Are the other candidates going to post their manifestos?
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Amy » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:57 pm

Not much difference between Snoop and me, really. This is what I wrote earlier

[quote]Don't expect great things - my main intentions are to foster more alternative rides and to increase the number of VCs and their involvement in organising the club runs without the Captain necessarily being there all the time. And to encourage more riders to take greater responsibility for the rides and groups though not necessarily becoming VCs if they don't want it to be that official.


Except I don't have the time or the computer power to do things like the Lanterne Rouge and mass emails. I'd be more than happy to continue in my current role and support Snoop as Captain. As most people know I'm a good regular at CSS and more than vocal supporter of alternative rides (except when I oversleep like yesterday :( )

Should people want me as Captain rather than Snoop, then I'd definitely encourage him to do all the things he's set out in his email/post.

An idea? Could we be joint Captains???

Anyway, discuss, decide and come along to the AGM!!
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Paul H » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:28 pm

[quote]An idea? Could we be joint Captains???


How about a racing captain and a recreational captain
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Antloony » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:47 pm

So exactly what roles are available?

Are we having a club captain and a club run captain?
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Snoop Doug » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:55 am

Some good points emerging here. I look at da roolz and it seems that we don't have a position of club captain. There is a role of club run captain so I'm guessing the mists of time have swirled things around a bit.

Some time ago I raised the possibility of this dual role idea because I felt the club run was such a big undertaking that there was insufficient focus on other areas. It wasn't well received at the time. With the news that Monty is not standing this year this could be a good time to try this out? With a bit of creative thinking there may be no need for anything boring like rule changes. Perhaps as Amy suggests she could lead on the club run stuff and I could be co-opted for a year to look at the other stuff as an experiment? I'm open to more suggestions but that could be an easyish way of seeing if a slight change could help the club to adapt, and then in a year's time depending on how it's gone we could (if necessary) make the arrangement more formal?

Off to work - have a great day.

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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Amy » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:57 am

Snoop's right - all clubs have always had a captain of the club run. The head of the club is the President along with the club secretary and the club secretary is the holder of the rules...

I suppose some people took it quite literally...
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Jon H » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:13 pm

Doug,

Just been reading through your "manifesto" thingy on the AGM thread. For the club run captain role I feel that we need someone who will be a regular on the club run in its (hopefully) various guises, and from that perspective my vote would go to Amy as she is currently more active and visible on our club runs.

However, all the other stuff you mention is great and I would be more than happy to have you back on the committee bringing with you all your ideas for moving the club forwards. I don't think there has to be a specific position; you can just be a committee member. Although with all the lanterne rouge and race reports to the newspapers you were doing, maybe "communications officer" or something similar may be a suitable title.

Anyway, if you want a nominator I'll be more than happy to oblige.

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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Amy » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:06 pm

Thanks for the vote of support, Jon... I was thinking, oh goody, Snoop's standing, I can duck out... but I won't now, I think :roll:

I will be looking for plenty of support though (if I do get voted as Captain) from people wanting to help move the ACC into a new phase - we need more VCs considering the size of the club, of all abilities so that people don't have to make sacrifices such as take the J4F group out when they were really planning on the 19s.

Of course, other people are more than welcome to stand for Captain - in fact, I'll be encouraging people to think about coming forward for next year.
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Dombo » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:47 pm

Could I vote by proxy or postal? December always a tricky month for us City folk what with parties to attend and whatnot, and I already have two on the 8th :D
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Snoop Doug » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:08 pm

[quote="Dombo"]Could I vote by proxy or postal? December always a tricky month for us City folk what with parties to attend and whatnot, and I already have two on the 8th :D


I think that's a good idea. But I don't think da roolz currently permit it. Part of me thinks we should say sod it, move into a century at least a bit closer to this one and make that kind of thing easy - but then having to be at the AGM to vote might be a way of encouraging folk to be more engaged with other aspects of the club? Who am I kidding!

Personally I'm in favour of making it as easy as possible to influence things so I'd say you should have your vote regardless of actually being there. Interested to know what others think?
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Snoop Doug » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:40 pm

[quote="Jon Hemming"]Doug,

Just been reading through your "manifesto" thingy on the AGM thread. For the club run captain role I feel that we need someone who will be a regular on the club run in its (hopefully) various guises, and from that perspective my vote would go to Amy as she is currently more active and visible on our club runs.

However, all the other stuff you mention is great and I would be more than happy to have you back on the committee bringing with you all your ideas for moving the club forwards. I don't think there has to be a specific position; you can just be a committee member. Although with all the lanterne rouge and race reports to the newspapers you were doing, maybe "communications officer" or something similar may be a suitable title.

Anyway, if you want a nominator I'll be more than happy to oblige.

Jon


Thanks Jon, I really appreciate you writing this, it's given me lots of food for thought. Sorry for not responding sooner. I'm sure many people will feel that same way that you do about this. It's a great point you make and it may indeed be better for the club if I was to simply rejoin the committee. I am open to your suggestion.

And I do feel that the position of club run captain, should be about more than the club run, there are other things that I believe the club run captain needs to take a lead on. I think there is room for much wider encouragement into other areas of the club and a much better feel for communication than we have had previously. And I think we should be more open about things, for example I would encourage committee meeting minutes to be made available to all who want them. We're a club, not a secret society, and I don't think a lack of openness serves us well.

My business is about encouraging and helping people in organisations who want to find better, simpler, more enjoyable ways to work. I enjoy it and my clients tell me I'm quite good at it, and I think a lot of that experience could transfer easily over to ACC. As you and others know I've previously had a hand in successfully helping to organise social and racing and communication stuff for the club. And I freely admit that despite committee support at the time I should not have pushed for rule changes around the marshalling side. The rule changes were implemented and I was left waving a policy that our members didn't want and the committee weren't prepared to stand behind. I was responsible for that and I was wrong there for sure, but it's only through making mistakes that we learn eh?

I look forward to a constructive and hopefully fun discussion about this at the AGM and if it is obvious that I have no support then I will happily step away.

Thanks again - Doug
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Jon C C on a Bianchi » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:18 pm

As I don't want to be accused of dastardly behaviour and underhand dealings such as high-jacking the AG meeting, entryism, and the like, I'd like to informally announce my intention to stand as CR Captain.

I'm flattered to say I've actually been asked by quite a few members to stand and without trying to sound too bleeding pompous I'd be absolutely honoured to serve this brilliant cycling club as CR captain if voted in by the members.

See you all at the AGM.

best wishes

Jon :D
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Re: 2010 Club AGM - 8th December

Postby Amy » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:53 pm

Well done, Jon, but don't expect too much of the AGM :lol: Something like a tenth of the membership actually turn up and I think I can name most of them :roll:

Perhaps we should think about having proxy and postal votes.

Though it doesn't matter who is captain out of you, me and Doug - so long as the Captain and the VCs work together in developing the club run and encouraging more alternative rides.
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