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Cleat Position

Postby Marek » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:11 pm

I have been having problems with my little toes when riding. They seem to be taking a lot of pressure and I am not sure how to cure. My shoes are quite spacious, I am certain that the pain is being caused by poor cleat position. Does anyone have any recommendations on which way they think I should move the cleats. I am thinking that I should move the cleat out so it is more under the smaller toe so that part of the foot is more supported, but I am not sure, what do you reckon?

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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Keith » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:18 pm

Maybe you need some wedges between the cleat & shoe so you press less on the outer part of your foot?

Perhaps all this "barefoot" running malarky has given you fallen arches and hence problems with your feet when cycling?

Either way it could be worth seeing a podiatrist / bike-fit specialist?
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Andrew G » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:35 pm

General rule I use is to have the centre line of the cleat under the balls of my feet, easiest to use masking take toshow centre on base of shoe as you can't feel through a stiff sole. Then I have them lined up so my feet are square on the pedal.

Maybe try this and see what you find, you may find that the cleat has moved slightly over time or you didn't fit a new one exactly where you had the old one.
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Paul H » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:24 pm

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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Rob Q » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:32 pm

I have a lot of problems with my feet too. Hot foot, toes getting numb etc etc. I have had a bike fit, change of shoes etc etc. I was speaking to a guy here in Sydney and he reckons a change of cleat could be the answer. So moving from a KEO to a Speedplay like he did seemed to solve the problem for him. I guess everyone is different but I might give this a go.

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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Marek » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:33 pm

I have had it for a long time, I just had a look and I think I had the fronts of my cleats coming in towards the bike, so I have tried to straighten them up a bit, hopefully that will help, will see on the weekend.

I have changed from Look to Shimano SPD's because I was getting hot foot with the Looks. Seem to have solved the hot foot, but the little toes have been killing, will see if the change in cleat position sorts it.

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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Paul H » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:01 pm

Try these

[url]http://www.bike-science.com/products/footbeds/sole-thin-sport-custom-footbeds-4-p-1116.html[/url]
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Sylv » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:05 pm

Or

http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/training/b ... /3936.html

George may have some advice if your toes are becoming a nuisance.
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Andrew G » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:56 pm

Another insole option is the specialized footbeds which use their BG "stuff" and also have shim options which go in the shoe under the insole. I use them, with one of the thin shims, in mine. Only in my best shoes but keep meaning to get some for my commuting shoes as they do seem to be beneficial for me. Various shops (GBs, Pearsons that I know) have the mats and kneeling seat that they use to assess your feet and way they fall. I.e. what type of insole you need as there are 3 types and which shims if any to insert.
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Rob Q » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:50 am

Or if you speak to Dombo chew through 5 packets of nurofen :lol: :lol:
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Paulos Fandangos » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:12 am

Marek,

An article on cleat positions, a lot of plugging, but there are good tips on positions according to height/weight etc that may help
[url]http://www.londoncyclesport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3181:putting-your-best-feet-forward&catid=39:site-features&Itemid=94[/url]
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Dombo » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:36 am

[quote="Rob Q"]Or if you speak to Dombo chew through 5 packets of nurofen :lol: :lol:


:D mixed up with some paracetomol for getting truly in the doped-out zone. Stick some Grateful Dead on the ipod and the landscape just flies by. No aspirin though. You come off and hit the road after a packet of those puppies and you'll never stop bleeding.

Seriously though, the Spesh BG footbeds are very good. I have them in my mtb shoes and my new road shoes are Spesh so have them as standard. I did try the Sidas custom footbeds suggested when I did a Cyclefit fititng a couple of years ago (interestingly not to cure hotfoot but apparently to get my total bill over £200) and they seemed to make things worse. The foam metatarsal buttons they sold me a while later didn't help much. The problem with custom footbeds is that the force you exert when standing on the mould, and hence the shape you make, is fine for ski boots when you'll be standing all day, but pedalling is different, with weight distributed between your bum and hands so your foot must be exerting a different imprint inside the shoe.
I have read that moving the cleats back slightly from the ball of the foot can help - apparently some of the Ride Across America guys practically have them on their heels.
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby nick de meyer » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:52 am

speedplay pedals have a lot of adjustability
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby -Adam- » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:53 am

I have my cleats set so that the ball of my foot sits about 5mm forward of the pedal axle, and my heel is angled in towards the chain stays. I rarely, if ever have feet trouble.

That said, I am about to get a new pair of Bont Vaypors, with Sidas foot beds, professionally set up for me, so I'll report back more once thats all done...
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Re: Cleat Position

Postby Dombo » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:45 pm

My Look Keos have 9 degs of float (red cleats) so I can flit between heel in or heel out
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