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Is this 'normal'?

Postby Amy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:08 pm

Got charged £225 for an hour and a half for a plumber to look for and fail to find the source of a water leak somewhere in my flat????

That was last night and by this morning the damp patch had spread from under the kitchen floor into the lounge, the hall and into downstairs flat...

Got a plumber from the flat management company who managed to locate the area the water is coming from and shut down all water (good job my neighbour is in today :shock: ) and am now waiting for a 3rd one with more experience to arrive later today :roll:

Oh well, maybe get some money from the insurance towards having the kitchen and bathroom redone...
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby John G » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:20 pm

[quote="Amy"]Got charged £225 for an hour and a half for a plumber to look for and fail to find the source of a water leak somewhere in my flat????

That was last night and by this morning the damp patch had spread from under the kitchen floor into the lounge, the hall and into downstairs flat...

Got a plumber from the flat management company who managed to locate the area the water is coming from and shut down all water (good job my neighbour is in today :shock: ) and am now waiting for a 3rd one with more experience to arrive later today :roll:

Oh well, maybe get some money from the insurance towards having the kitchen and bathroom redone...


That is intense! Those plumbers make a killing! I'm in the wrong game here! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Phil H » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:42 pm

Sounds a bit rich. I think last time I had an emergency plumber out it was £180 but that included 2 hours of work. That was a Sunday during the day. Boiler guy who I called out recently was £90 for callout and first half hour.

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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Ronnie » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:46 pm

With the amount of club members we have there must be a good plumber out there, trust a cyclist or something.
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Amy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:42 pm

[quote="Ronnie"]With the amount of club members we have there must be a good plumber out there, trust a cyclist or something.


Worst lot going :D

Going to need some work done, I've had bits of the kitchen and bathroom ripped out and holes knocked in walls, the floors and units are hardboard and now need to dry out - and the guy below is worried about the damp patch on his ceiling :shock:

Want to get the new kitchen floor up off the old floor so that it can dry out but I think I'm going to need man power...

OK, so what's going to be the third thing to 'go'....

[size=50]PS Don't call Alloy Plumbing Services[/size]
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Roy Green » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:36 pm

You have my sympathy, Amy. I thought I had a rough deal when I returned from Tenerife, to find a burst pipe on turning the water back on. No probs, I thought, I have Homeserve's Plumbing and Drainage emergency service. Wrong thinking! :( They sent out two guys who said they hadn't been told it was an inside problem, and they 'only dealt with outside emergencies' :? took a full day to get another 'plumber'. H was worse than useless, insisted on me signing indemnity in case of property damage. He walked away without starting. to my annoyance, when I demanded another man, I got this same geek, another day later; Same result, walkout. Rage on phone. :x My fourth callout fixed leak quite simply in half an hour, no damage. He was a brilliant guy. Despite this, after three days to fix a simple leak, you can image my views on Homeserve's pathetic service. Still at least such travails only cost us stress, not hard cash. You really got a raw deal there, Amy; sympathies.
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Amy » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:56 pm

That sounds awful, Roy. Snoop should be on their case :shock:

Anyway, it's a job for a builder - any one want the job? Just got to dry everything out to see what the final damage is - apart from the obvious holes knocked in walls and bits missing off the fixtures in the bathroom and kitchen.

And if I'm going to have to have work done, I may as well put in a new bathroom suite and better storage and maybe even do the kitchen if the damage is sufficient there...

Good job the new carpet wasn't down yet :shock:
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Dombo » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:04 pm

Supply and demand am afraid. You have a leak that is ruining your flat; so the man who might fix it can charge that sort of money. How much would you pay for a bucket of water? Fifty quid? Too much, you say. What if you're on fire?
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Bo-Gilly » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:30 am

[quote]Supply and demand am afraid.


Why are you afraid ? ......is it something you don't approve of ?

Or you do think charging someone who's on fire 50 quid for a bucket of water is fair ?
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Dombo » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:35 am

[quote="Bo-Gilly"][quote]Supply and demand am afraid.


Why are you afraid ? ......is it something you don't approve of ?

Or you do think charging someone who's on fire 50 quid for a bucket of water is fair ?


No, I wholeheartedly approve. You charge what your market will bear. As to your second question, it depends who's on fire.
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Bo-Gilly » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:24 am

[quote]I wholeheartedly approve


So why were you "afraid" to tell Amy that supply and demand was the reason she was charged £225 for an hour and half's worth of work, which didn't solve her problem ?

Surely you should be celebrating the fact that this provides an excellent example of, great demand, little supply, and the triumph of monopoly and greed ?

Instead of timidly qualifying your comment by adding that you are "afraid".

Have a bit more commitment to the moral justification of your beliefs for goodness sake :idea:
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby John G » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:26 am

[quote="Bo-Gilly"][quote]I wholeheartedly approve


So why were you "afraid" to tell Amy that supply and demand was the reason she was charged £225 for an hour and half's worth of work, which didn't solve her problem ?

Surely you should be celebrating the fact that this provides an excellent example of, great demand, little supply, and the triumph of monopoly and greed ?

Instead of timidly qualifying your comment by adding that you are "afraid".

Have a bit more commitment to the moral justification of your beliefs for goodness sake :idea:


Agree, the whole thing is bang out of order and is simple GREED!

Overpriced and problem not solved! :evil:
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Dombo » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:33 pm

Figure of speech, Bo. Fairly meaningless, like "yer know, "actually", "like".
Often used to attempt to soften bad news, "i'm afraid we're going to have to let you go," "I'm afraid you were right, doctor, he did only last six months."
But as ever feel free to start another argument.
As to my original post, i'll rephrase it:
Supply and demand.
It isn't monopolistic or greedy. There are plenty of emergency plumbers who charge what seems like a lot because they can. Those who charge "too much" will eventually go out of business.
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby Bo-Gilly » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:03 pm

[quote]But as ever feel free to start another argument.


How am I starting another argument ? I haven't even disagreed with you.

I was just interested in whether you approved of Amy getting charged £225 for an hour and half's worth of work which didn't solve her problem - you made a comment but didn't make it clear exactly what your opinion was. You've now cleared that up by stating that you "wholeheartedly approve".

If you feel in some way reluctant to divulge your opinion on the matter then why comment in the first place ?

BTW I'm surprised that you think it has nothing to do with monopoly and greed, wasn't that the point you were making concerning supply and demand ? IE the monopoly of a few plumbers willing to do emergency work pushed the price up when there was an urgent demand. And isn't "greed" a good thing ? I thought Maggie taught us that it was :?
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Re: Is this 'normal'?

Postby RachelB » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:02 pm

:D was the plumber English :?:
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