Club 10, 22 May 2012, CANCELLED

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Club 10, 22 May 2012, CANCELLED

Postby Jon H » Sun May 20, 2012 6:19 pm

Good news: We have a full field of 30, so if anyone on the list knows they can't ride please let me know so others can fill the gaps.

Start No. Name Club Start Time
1 Tom Hawkes Addiscombe CC 19.31
2 Lizzie Stanger Addiscombe CC 19.32
3 Lesley Wilkinson Addiscombe CC 19.33
4 Naomi Gayler Addiscombe CC 19.34
5 Katie Adams Addiscombe CC 19.35
6 Bridget Malarkey Addiscombe CC 19.36
7 Nigel Costiff Addiscombe CC 19.37
8 Jo Cushway Addiscombe CC 19.38
9 Sam Camden Addiscombe CC 19.39
10 Christine Costiff Addiscombe CC 19.40
11 Lucy Ashdown-Parkes Addiscombe CC 19.41
12 Ben Fancourt Addiscombe CC 19.42
13 Rich Buerckner Addiscombe CC 19.43
14 Martin Wiles Addiscombe CC 19.44
15 Lyndsey Greenslade Addiscombe CC 19.45
16 Julian Gibson Addiscombe CC 19.46
17 Iliya Trkuja Addiscombe CC 19.47
18 Jon Camden Addiscombe CC 19.48
19 John Gargan Addiscombe CC 19.49
20 Ian Pringle Addiscombe CC 19.50
21 George Allan Addiscombe CC 19.51
22 Phil Hawkes Addiscombe CC 19.52
23 Terry Hill Addiscombe CC 19.53
24 Simon Lythgoe Addiscombe CC 19.54
25 Ian Munnery Addiscombe CC 19.55
26 Keith Lea Addiscombe CC 19.56
27 Mark McLaughlin Addiscombe CC 19.57
28 Robert Royle-Evatt Addiscombe CC 19.58
29 Andrew Green Addiscombe CC 19.59
30 Dominic Lowe Addiscombe CC 20.00

Timekeeper: Tim Coales (Addiscombe CC)
Assistant Timekeeper: Phil Nash (Addiscombe CC)
Pusher: Matt Day (Addiscombe CC)
Marshal at Capel (Turn): Ghaleb Aqel (Addiscombe CC)

Now the bad news. As of Saturday morning there were roadworks on the course, so unless those disappear by Tuesday it's unlikely we would be able to use the course. Second bit of bad news is I've got an arm in plaster so can't drive so will probably not be there.
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Jon C C on a Bianchi » Sun May 20, 2012 8:06 pm

Hi Jon H

Bloody typical. Lovely weather predicted and a full field. How will we know whether it's on or not?

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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby djembi » Sun May 20, 2012 8:25 pm

i was down their today and the road works shouldn't cause any problems it was only a little stretch :?
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Andrew G » Sun May 20, 2012 8:35 pm

Not seen them so can't comment on that but with TTs I believe there's a rule/reg on how long a carriageway can be reduced to single from double due to the reduction in overtaking on busier roads. Hopefully this will be okay as it is a bit of road that doesn't have a high traffic count.
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Jon H » Mon May 21, 2012 8:20 am

The CTT guidance note says that a course shouldn't be used if the DC is reduced to SC for more than 200m.
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Dominic » Mon May 21, 2012 9:58 am

When will the decision be made about the race? Is it a case of waiting and seeing tomorrow when we turn up?
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Phil H » Mon May 21, 2012 12:16 pm

[quote="Dominic"]When will the decision be made about the race? Is it a case of waiting and seeing tomorrow when we turn up?

Looking on the Surrey CC website, I found [url=http://www1.surreycc.gov.uk/highways/template3b.cfm?id=24336&district=mole%20valley&town=SOUTH%20HOLMWOOD&roadName=HORSHAM%20ROAD&roadNo=]this[/url] which is suitably unhelpful. It implies that work could go on until 18th June.

I will take a spin around there after dropping the boy at drumming tonight. See what the scale is.
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Andrew G » Mon May 21, 2012 12:38 pm

If the blue dot on the map is correct then they're by Beare Green RAB which may mean they're only small, also if they have been going on since 8th May then they were there for the last Club 10. I seem to remember one or two riders mentioning a very small bit of roadworks.

Depends on whether they're just spending a long time in the same small hole or shuffling about and digging new ones.
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Lucyap » Mon May 21, 2012 12:41 pm

[quote]Looking on the Surrey CC website, I found this which is suitably unhelpful. It implies that work could go on until 18th June.


It looks like this link refers to the road works that were on the course at the last evening 10? It there another set of road works, because this one wasn't much of a problem??

[quote]When will the decision be made about the race? Is it a case of waiting and seeing tomorrow when we turn up?


Same question from me as I need to organise a baby sitter ....
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Phil H » Mon May 21, 2012 12:49 pm

I'm assuming that it's the same works but they're moving (like the damned irritating one between Banstead and Purley). Last time it was maybe 50 yards. If I get a chance to check tonight I will.

Lucy - can't Jamie sit? I hope he's not going out and spending money that could be used for, say, membership fees ...
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Jon H » Mon May 21, 2012 2:42 pm

This is what the CTT guidance note says:
[quote]Rider Safety
(The Abandonment of Events)

All courses are designed and approved with safety in mind, however exceptional circumstances may arise which compromise rider safety to such an extent that the event has to be abandoned. While every case has to be individually assessed on its own merit, the promoter’s first consideration MUST be the safety of the riders in the event. All other considerations such as the length of time some riders have been on the road, or the distance they may have travelled to the event have to be discounted.

It is very difficult to generalise and to cover all circumstances, but the National Committee has drawn up the following guidelines:

Roadwork/coned off carriageways

When an organiser is aware that there is a section of the proposed course affected by roadwork and/or coned off section of carriageway, an assessment must be made of the problem and how it will affect the safety of the competitors. As a general principal, time trials MUST NOT pass through more than 200 metres of coned off carriageway. Drivers of previously fast moving vehicles quickly become impatient if held up behind a rider for more than a short time. If the end of the coned off section can be seen from where it begins, traffic is likely to be more patient. If not, it will try to squeeze past with potentially catastrophic consequences. It may be that in certain circumstances, a distance of 200 metres is too far and in these cases the section of road must not be used.
The above applies to dual carriageway roads where riders have to pass through the coned off section or where a lane is lost to accommodate oncoming traffic i.e. contraflow. Workings on single carriageway roads that narrow the carriageway so as to prevent vehicles crossing in opposite directions must be marshalled to ensure that all riders obey the law of the land and any traffic signals.


I am getting mixed messages from people who have been there recently. PVT is seeking advice from the London South CTT, but all I can suggest in the meantime is that the situation is assessed tomorrow evening dependent on the actual state of the roadworks and amount of traffic at the time.
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby George Allan » Mon May 21, 2012 3:49 pm

Hi guys my name is on one list but not on the start list. Can someone tell me why please
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Jon H » Mon May 21, 2012 4:22 pm

[quote="George Allan"]Hi guys my name is on one list but not on the start list. Can someone tell me why please

Apologies George. Cut and paste error on my part.
You're now number 21.
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby George Allan » Mon May 21, 2012 5:39 pm

Thanks jon
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Re: Club 10 Start List, 22 May 2012

Postby Phil H » Mon May 21, 2012 6:50 pm

I've just taken a spin around it in the car. It in coned to 1 lane for about 0.4 miles - rather more than last time. It is signposted as a 30mph limit - if that makes any difference. I can't see Tom maintaining 30mph through there though.
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