Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

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Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Phil H » Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:11 pm

Just wondered about this with the shops about to announce Christmas. The boy's collection of bicycles has grown and moving computers between them is a faff. One of the things I love about my Edge 705 is that it Just Works on whichever bike I put it on. Also he's a bit of a Strava statto and the only way he can do this at the moment is by carrying my (expensive) phone in his back pocket.

He doesn't need navigation - it drive me mental on my 705 whenever I try to use it.

Anyway, GBs seem to carry the Bryton range which look really good value - although I have heard about issues with an earlier mount and the software being a bit iffy. So possibles are:

Garmin Edge 200 - around £100
Bryton Rider 20 - £90 from GB (discount?)
Garmin Edge 500 - £140

Anybody got any thoughts?
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Dan_K » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:09 pm

Garmin edge 200 but if he wants HR data, he'll want the 500.
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Phil H » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:03 pm

Anything in particular against the Bryton Dan? I notice that one will use an ANT+ HR strap. Allegedly.

I am tempted to go Garmin as mine has survived a fair amount of abuse (especially verbal when navigating).

Not sure if he wants HR data. I suppose it would help us tell if he's really trying:
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Marcus » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:50 am

3 weeks ago a newbie attended the club run, sorry cannot remember name, who managed to negotiate up to I believe 50% off by buying 10 units from Garmin direct.
Maybe he will make his self known or you could try emailing them yourself.

How do you pair 2 or more cadence sensors on different bikes without problems Phil?
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Phil H » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:02 am

[quote="Marcus"]
How do you pair 2 or more cadence sensors on different bikes without problems Phil?

I don't - I only have the cadence sensor on one bike. It's not that useful.
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Ian A4size » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:11 am

[quote="Marcus"]3 weeks ago a newbie attended the club run, sorry cannot remember name, who managed to negotiate up to I believe 50% off by buying 10 units from Garmin direct.
Maybe he will make his self known or you could try emailing them yourself.

How do you pair 2 or more cadence sensors on different bikes without problems Phil?


Marcus,
I have a garmin 500 and its dead easy to swap around on various bikes and power meters, just do a re-scan and it'll find it, different meters, hrm straps no prob plus you can keep all your data in one place. I use it on 3 different bikes and Joanna uses hers (310 xt) on 2 bikes.
When you change bikes just do a re-scan.
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Keith » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:34 am

No experience of the Garmin 200 or the Bryton, but I can't fault my Garmin 500.

[quote="Ian A4size"]
When you change bikes just do a re-scan.
simple.

Ian, don't know if you're aware that you can set up 3 different bikes so you don't need to rescan (and thus don't need to be concerned with any other ANT+ sensors being in range when you rescan).
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Elliot M » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:06 pm

[quote]Also he's a bit of a Strava statto and the only way he can do this at the moment is by carrying my (expensive) phone in his back pocket.


If not a phone, then doesn't it need to be a Garmin to work with Strava? Or can you convert Bryton data to Garmin flavour?

The other option could be a cheaper (second hand?) Android - a colleague has one used only for this purpose and not for calls, although I think you'll need a SIM in there for it to work at all.
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Phil H » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:17 pm

[quote="Elliot M"][quote]Also he's a bit of a Strava statto and the only way he can do this at the moment is by carrying my (expensive) phone in his back pocket.


If not a phone, then doesn't it need to be a Garmin to work with Strava? Or can you convert Bryton data to Garmin flavour?

The other option could be a cheaper (second hand?) Android - a colleague has one used only for this purpose and not for calls, although I think you'll need a SIM in there for it to work at all.

The Bryton thing seems fine with Strava. My only concern is whether it's as weather/boy proof as a Garmin.

His phone is a simple one. School rules restrict what they can use - e.g. no cameras. With a GPS computer, we can just get mounts and he can put it on whichever bike and not worry.
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby adrian » Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:34 pm

What's the difference between the red and blue Garmin 500 (yes, apart from the colour :roll: )? The red's more expensive but I don't see why.
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Dan_K » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:56 pm

The red Garmin was/is a limited edition colour.

I think when all GPS devices record data, they log it as a GPX file. Not sure it Bryton will sync easily with Strava like Garmin Communicator does but if not, it will be fairly easy to pull the gpx file off it and upload it to Strava by "browsing" for the file. I do this with my Garmin Etrex that I use for walking.

Phil, FYI Bryton 35t (with cadence and HRM) are £112 on Sport Pursuit ending in around 4 days.

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Personally, i'm a Garmin fan. Never used Bryton but i'm pretty stuck in my ways and have had quite a few Garmin devices over the years for different things. My Edge 305 packed up recently and i'll replace it next year with a 500.
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Re: Buying advice wanted: GPS stuff

Postby Phil H » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:09 pm

I should probably update: I got him the 500 in case he wants to add cadence (for turboing). Working well.
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