The Following ACC Racers Have Switched teams For 2007:

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Postby Toks » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:05 pm

Wow Kieran you've turned into an investigative reporter! [quote]Will it make much difference to your racing calendar, will you be able to pick your own races, i.e. still hang out at Palace and Hog Hill next year? will you now have to develop team tactics in support of ...?
Er I'm guessing we'll target a few of the bigger 2/3 surrey league one dayers and stage races races as a group. Nobody we'll drag me away from Palace I quite look forward to the E12 races. Lets see if I can survive the first couple without getting dropped + whoelse is gonna shout at (motivate) you ACC 3/4 racers if I'm not there :wink: [quote]etc, curious about what the change will mean in terms of your riding tactics, goals for next year? How many in the team? will you get to race your races or play 'domestique' to a more established team racer? etc etc etc ...


The team 3rd cats are: Marek, Max (very strong all rounder), Jason (scarily strong all rounder, lapped the field by himself when he won a 4th cat race at Eastway in May) Chris Farrell (got sick so lost his 2nd cat status - but very strong TT type) Phil (The Guv, don't know much about him, but looked decent at CP) 2nd cats: Tim, Me, Phil Sheehan (ex ACC, my mate, strong sprinter and most liable to join a new team if his not happy!!) and Mickael (cool french dude, 1st cat last year with 'fit for' now a 2nd cat - very strong TT guy who naturally loves breakaways). I don't know any of the other riders on that list... I'm sure they'll be team tactic in some races, of course...The 3rd cats will obviously be trying to make 2nd cat and the 2nd cats I think will try and get as many points as possible. Obviously in some races we may try breakaways or work for our sprinters it all depends...Personally I don't think any of us are strong enough yet to get 200 points and make 1st cat. But hey with Tim and Phil both being sprinters we may surprise you. :D [quote]What's happening to your current kit and bike bits? Will Mosquito be giving you bikes to race on? or deals on items. Would be a bit odd if you were riding bikes that the shop didn't sell? Any good wheels going cheap??? Laughing

So has Roger got you on the bit fit rig yet?
I don't think we're getting our own bikes. Hopefully when they see what as sorry state my bike is in they'll put me on the rack and offer me one of theirs :D :lol: :lol:..I need to get a new ACC top at some point the current one is a large rather than a medium and its knackered anyway. :lol: :lol: .
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Postby Dr Frigo » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:56 pm

[quote]so who in the team?:

Phil Sheehan - 2nd cat
Chris Farrell - 2nd cat
Russ Jones
Phil Burnett
Andy Dickson
Ian Cleverly


Isn't Matt Seaton riding the cross league for Mosquito these days?
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Postby Paul R » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:18 pm

Toks used to ride with CC Islington. He made us feel special, like we were the only cycling club in the world. But then suddenly we weren't good enough for him: "Why can't you be more like Addiscombe, with their sexy yellow kit and their online web forum?", he'd say, and before we knew it he was gone. Now you know how we felt. But don't worry, he won't be with those Essex Road floozies for long. I've seen him talking to that Gabellini. As soon as he's a first cat he'll be off to Rapha Condor... Face it Toks, you just can't commit. One day, a cycling club is going to do to you what you did to them, and then you'll be sorry.
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Postby Stu Merckx Man » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:09 pm

sounds like theres some un resloved feelings here....

:roll: :idea: :idea: i say have it out in a jousting match...frame sized pumps for a lance, motor bike helmet, knee and elbo pads just incase, and a time trial wheel as a shield! :P
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Postby Robh » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:53 pm

Maybe members don't see ACC as a serious road racing club...

Perhaps ACC should look for a sponsor and try to hang onto their members.
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Postby Rob » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:10 pm

[quote]Perhaps ACC should look for a sponsor and try to hang onto their members.


sponsors are for poor people....acc are loaded!! :wink:
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Postby Stu Merckx Man » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:20 pm

is there a racing captain of any sort?

i know theres monty and the vices, but do they spread to racing aswell?

it would be good if there was a member with all the info on up coming races with lots of racing experience....and then i know this sounds very geeky, but if there are enough acc riders at a race hatch a plan. like if there is a particulaly good sprinter in the group, we could all work together to shelter him for the race, untill the end...or if someone needs like one point to get premoted do it for them etc etc...there could be like acc teams out in the races! :P

also perhaps for the racing members, free servicing by a generouse existing member :wink:
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Postby Marek » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:24 pm

Road racing secretary is Paul Tunnell.

Cheers

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Postby Marek » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:32 pm

Everything you need to know about racing can be found on these three sites in terms of calendars etc. Just keep an eye on them as the season starts:

http://www.surreyleague.co.uk

http://www.serrl.org.uk

http://www.britishcycling.org.uk

As you are going to be starting as a fourth cat Stu, then you may have to limit your early races to place like Hillingdon, Chertsey and Goodwood. Although if you race against 2/3 cat riders then I believe you can enter some of the SERRL races which are great but longer and can be quite hilly, but that is the fun of them.

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Postby Stu Merckx Man » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:37 pm

ah right cheers marek! :D
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Postby Andrew G » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:39 pm

The coach on Sunday asked why Addiscombe don’t race as much as others.
My answer was that we are more of a social club rather than a pure race club, but do have racing members.

Personally I’d rather be a member of a friendly sociable club with large numbers than a smaller club where the club runs consist of a dozen people in a chain gang trying to rip each others legs off all the time. If that is what you want there are others that cater for that, or you could go in the training group.

Many clubs have gone down the pan or struggled for members, and or finances, over the years because they become too elitist. As for losing members, I think the growing club run sizes show that they are growing rather than shrinking. One of the good things is everyone talks to everyone else, there aren't divisions between the fast and slower guys at the cafe. I've certainly not noticed any egos.

Not competitive, don’t race…I think the Results section tells a different story of the last year in both RRs and TTs, and more members are having a go at racing all the time. That doesn’t include all the sportive riders in the club, which is the fastest growing area of cycling.

It seems a popular moan about Addiscombe about a lack of racing compared to the membership size. That seems odd to me as if we had the same percentages of racers as those with smaller memberships there’d be a peleton with 100 ACC jerseys in it at the races in the SE. Do they really want to try and get past that in a race!

Cycling’s about a lot more than racing.

Sorry, I’ve stabled the high-horse again. :D

[quote]sponsors are for poor people

More about class surely, Barca never used to have a sponsor as they didn't want it to deface the jersey. :wink:

Stu - If you service your own and know how it works you'll always be in better shape than if you always have to run to someone else :) . None of it's that complicated. If you can make it try and come along to the next training session on the 3rd Dec. You're very quick and are bound to go well next year when you start racing, but I think you might find it useful if you haven't raced before as it's run by a BC qualified coach so you should learn something to help you.
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Postby -Adam- » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:51 pm

I think stu is right, perhaps a 'Road Captain' is what we need...

Someone who doesn't necesarily have race week in week out, but be the main voice in directing addiscombes efforts. And provide the advice and support that is crucial in motivating everbody to do their best, and be the person to turn to for those little niggling questions we all have from time to time

Id love the job, but being away and not knowing a lot anyway that kinda rules me out... However may i make some suggestions as to who could take up the role?

Matt Ives?

Steve aka The Shadow?

(When i heard both these two had won at hillingdon, that was the final piece of encouragement i needed to get racing. Given that i can beat both of them in the sprint for the cafe :wink: )

Also, addiscombe now reimburse a winners entry fee right? And pay under 18's entry fees full stop, well could this be extended to cash strapped uni students?

Food for thought...?

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Postby Stu Merckx Man » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:03 pm

Ill definatly go to the training session if i can, i would have gone to the others, trouble is i have to do my homework on sundays! :evil: :evil:

and i have to say im pleased about that under 18 stuff!!...i think i remember monet mentioning it but it slipped my mind
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Postby Andrew G » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:28 pm

[quote]Ill definatly go to the training session if i can, i would have gone to the others, trouble is i have to do my homework on sundays!

You have my sympathy, there are some benefits to becoming an old git :D . I'll post the details nearer the time anyway so you'll know where to go if you are free.
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Postby Stu Merckx Man » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:32 pm

cheers andrew that would be good...also im so pleased someone realises just how hard bieng in education is on a lad ! :P
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