Colnago C50

[Elliot M]

alan,

is that a compact chainset?

what model easton wheels are they? been thinking about a new pair to do justice to my new (sylv's old) bike.

[Alan M]

Ah! well 'spotted' Sylvain and a reminder to fill the bird feeder, but not really a passion just an occasional pass time.

Yes, it is a compact and the wheels are ascent 11, only a few left at dauphin, i gather before they replace them with a new but less good model

Cheers

[Dr Frigo]

Mmmm these would go so well on mine ...

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=11620

[Elliot M]

Sylv - would have thought you'd go for Mavics?

You know they're testing an all-carbon proto very like Obermayer Lightweights?

http://www.mavic.fr/ewb_pages/a/actualite_827.php

Picked one up when Cofidis bikes were being washed at the TDF in Morzine - unbelievable!

[Dr Frigo]

It doesn't have to be 100% French!

I was doing this (very hypothetical) shortlist of carbon tubulars based on price, reviews, weight and looks and the Eastons came second to Zipps either 303 or 404 for racing wheels.

But

a) cost (someone in London can get the Zipps for £840, but still!)
b) impracticality (you don't really want to be riding those wheels in potholed London on the way to Crystal Palace or Hillingdon, plus you have to swap brake pads between wheels as they pick up debris from alloy rims which would damage the carbon). Also all the hassle associated with tubular tires.

But apparently riding on tubulars feels soooo much nicer than on clinchers. Maybe in a year, when the rims of my current wheels wear out ...

[Paul H]

Have you seen these?

http://www.neuvationcycling.com/wheels/c38.html

[kieran]

if I remember rightly there was a wheel thread on veloriders and zipps didn't come out the best in user feedback? also some cracked mavic rims in the CTC mag this month and unkind words by Mr Juden on mavic rims.

[Elliot M]

i admire the honest selling approach!

[quote]Now for the bad news. Most people will tell you that if you’re 200 pounds you stand a good chance of cracking these wheels when you hit pot holes. They require special brake shoes which wear incredibly fast due to the hardness of the carbon. Brakes don’t work as well on them. They are a lot more fragile than alloy wheels. Even the pros don’t train on them.

[Dr Frigo]

No, but I've seen these http://www.bikes-dolan.uk.com/en-us/dept_109.html

But, for carbon wheels even moreso, I would prefer to trust established brands.

[Paul H]

As you said, at least he is honest and according to Marek I think this is an issue with any wheel.

Are you buying the same rim for a lot more money from a trusted brand?

[quote]Are you buying the same rim for a lot more money from a trusted brand?

[Marek]

Well, almost every wheel that I have had the pleasure to sit on and use. Mavic Ksyrium, the so called bomb proof wheels, well my rear rim has cracked twice in almost as many years. Note, I am close to the 200lb mark so this could be the issue. Basically if you are heavy and you hit a hole at speed you are more than likely to do some damage.

Also required a new rim on rear of Campag Eurus last year when hit the holes in Charlwood on the Handicap.

Also, have managed to shag the hub on a rear Gipiemme over the Xmas period and I think at the end of last year I knackered up a Mavic Cosmos, but that was not a very good wheel anyway. I think the Cosmos is repairable just the shop I took it to were about as useful as a chocolate teapot in trying to mend it.

But, I do intend to get another Ksyrium rim and try again as they look really nice and basically it is more to do with me being a porker and riding behind buggers like George who don't point out pot holes. Only problem is that riding in front of George these days has got extremely difficult cos he is so bliming quick.

Cheers

Marek....

[-Adam-]

I have been thinkin about investing in a pair of deep carbon wheels for a while now. And like you sylv, i dont like the idea of having to muck about with tubs, so its clinchers for me.

I basically have my list down to two now...

Mavic Cosmic Carbone Premium (clincher) £899 tho i have seen them for about £730 on an ebay shop. The only reason to buy the premium wheels for me is about the graphics, grey, mmm, that'll match my bike a whole lot better than yellow!

Hed Jet 50/60 (clincher) £599 - cant seem to find out much about these tho, i know hed are obviously well used by pros, but you dont see many teams riding there wheels in 'normal' road races.

However, im going to the TCR show next week, and i believe both will be there. So im going to let myself be pursuaded on one of them...

Anyone know much about hed wheels?

cheers,

adam

[Dr Frigo]

Hed have been around for a long time. They used to do carbon faired mtb wheels for downhill!

I wouldn't buy carbon clinchers though - you get "the worst of both worlds": heavier than even normal clinchers, for the price of carbon tubulars and some of their hassle.

Popped into Sigma today, they had on offer some Bontrager carbon areo £699 down from £949. Nice, a bit heavy compared to others.

http://www.bontrager.com/Road/Wheelwork ... s/5746.php

[img]http://www2.bontrager.com/images/products/x-large/263903.jpg[/img]

[-Adam-]

Sylv, the hed jet 60's are actually a fraction less in weight than my bontrager race lites i have currently, though the mavics are a fraction heavier, but were talking like 10-20grams either way...