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Postby Bo-Gilly » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:22 am

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Postby Grahame » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:09 am

The Shimano cable discs aren't *quite* as powerful as the Avid BB7s I use, but at £25 per end they are excellent value. I'd use them quite happily.

The QR skewers with the best (or least bad) reputation are the standard Shimano ones, closely followed by Salsa if you want pimpy. Whatever you use, it's worth checking them for tightness at each regroup/top of hill.

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Postby Elliot M » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:37 am

Marco, you need to check whether you have post mounts or IS mounts on the frame and fork. Most will be IS and most brakes will fit both, but note one of those Deore models will only fit posts.

I had the Deore cable disc brakes and I found them problematic.

1. The mechanism didn't have a lot of torque (short arm) so they lacked braking power; I believe this was fixed in later models

2. The brake pads they came with were the organic type, which wore extremely fast in UK conditions, needed replacing almost immediately

3. When the pads wore down the arm would run out of travel and hit the cable stop before the pads could contact the disc - which meant absolutely zero braking.

I binned them and replaced them with Avid cable discs. Which I know Grahame will recommend very highly.

I believe I have a set of Avids for sale, having gone to hydraulics, but will need to check I have all the bits.
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Postby Bo-Gilly » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:24 pm

No idea if these are any good but Bike Plus are doing Kooka Unitwin DH mech. brakes for £45 a pair (RRP £109.99) Plus you can get a wheel offer with them (£130)

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Dual adjustment caliper

Internatinal Standard Mount

Shimano Deore shape pads

Brake Cables and Levers not included

Rotors and Caliers only

8/10 MBUK Review



Buy a PAIR of brakes, complete with Shimano 475 hubs and Rigida Zac rims as well as Kooka XC Johhny tyres, the lot for for only 130.00.Please note carriage of £9.00 will be added automatically; for destinations outside England this may be more, in which case we will contact you to advise


BIKE PLUS Price! - Just £ 45.00


Wheel offer Select Wheel offer Please supply brakes alone @ £45.00 With wheel and tyre offer

Tube offer, three tubes at only £9.99 Select Tube offer, three tubes at only £9.99 No Tubes With three Specialized tubes Schraeder tubes With three Specialized tubes Presta tubes
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Postby Grahame » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:06 pm

I'd be in for 10 tubes if we got presta ones.
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Postby Ian A4size » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:07 am

If its any use to somebody... a company called bicycle rubber (honest guv) on e-bay will post 10 tubes to your door for £20 post and packing free. Bargain.
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Postby Snoop Doug » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:53 pm

errrrmmm. Confession time. I was swapping tyres on my old mtb earlier today and I popped the inner tube with my crappy tyre lever. I then found out I ain't got no tubes tee replace the holey one. I'm off to the club house to learn how to do this fixer upper stuff properly but I reckon I could be in for a few tubes marco, 20 is quite a lot for a man of such few miles - but I'd happily be up for say 10. Let's see how popular this gets and if you need me tee make up the numbers then whoop de doo.

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Re: Disc Brakes

Postby Bo-Gilly » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:38 pm

[quote="marco"] whats the best quick release lever to run on the front to reduce the risk of the wheel popping out catastrophically on a super fast downhill under heavy disc braking?


Worried about this Marco ?

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Postby Bo-Gilly » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:49 am

Yeh, it happened to once on one an ACC sunday ride. The first I knew of it was the sound of the disc rubbing on the pads as the wheel moved about. Luckily my wheel didn't come off. I was on level but bumpy ground and it took me quite a few seconds to work out that my QR had become completely undone. The scariest thing was that I'd just done a pretty fast downhill.

Rim brakes do at least tend to hold your wheel in the event of QR failure.
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Postby Wal » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:31 am

[quote]Hopefully its rare but with old forks I want the best skewers possible


Do your forks have "lawyer tabs"? If so, these will hopefully prevent catastrophic wheel ejection in the event of QR failure.

I haven't had any problems so far with my Ti rod/carbon lever QR as yet, but the consequences of failure don't bear thinking about, and after reading this from the venerable Sheldon Brown I'm probably going back to a Shimano steel QR on the front [url]http://www.sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html[/url]
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Postby Ian A4size » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:02 pm

Thanks for the warning Marco, but so far they have not let me down(groan) they are all Vittoria.
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Postby Snoop Doug » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:24 pm

I'm in Marco - they cost me £4.50 a pop (no pun intended) so this sounds like a bargain. Once we hit da magic number - how do I get the funds to ye - be warned tho - me carrier pigeon is on stroike loike

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