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Postby jon avery » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:25 pm

my Cycle to work bike came today and it has Shimano, oh by the way Sean it is a 10 speed not 9. :lol:
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Postby Andrew G » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:46 pm

Oh no Ian, we've lost one to the dark side. At least his race bike's still got proper equipment :wink:

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Postby jon avery » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:27 pm

Yup i'm in both camps (sounds a bit dodgey eh!) :lol:
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Postby Ian A4size » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:53 pm

I suppose a gruppo like that is ok on a work hack :wink:

I do hope no-one is offended by the above post.
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Postby -Adam- » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:27 am

At least shimano dont rip you off for their top of the range gruppo...!

£625 Dura Ace, £1100 Record, dont even get me started on 'oh sh!t my breaks dont work as i rapidly aproach an alpine hairpin at 60mph' for over £1200!

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Postby Andrew G » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:35 am

Adam the phrase you get what you pay for ring a bell :wink: .
When I've seen groupset comparisons they tend to compare Dura Ace with Chorus, Record seems to stand alone :)
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Postby Robh » Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:50 am

[quote="Andrew Green"]Adam the phrase you get what you pay for ring a bell :wink: .
When I've seen groupset comparisons they tend to compare Dura Ace with Chorus, Record seems to stand alone :)


I'm sure there's sod all diff in performance it between shimano Dura Ace and Campag Record. Although I've never experienced myself as I've always ridden Shimano.

As a bit of a teaser to the campag boys who hate the haning STI cables one could always fit the new Sram shifters & Sram rear derailleur to a 10 speed shimano group. Shifters are cheap in the states selling for around £190 compared to £330 in the UK.
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Postby jon avery » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:16 am

Balls in your court Mr Green, your return :lol:
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Postby Andrew G » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:28 am

[quote]I'm sure there's sod all diff in performance it between shimano Dura Ace and Campag Record. Although I've never experienced myself as I've always ridden Shimano.

As a bit of a teaser to the campag boys...

Just teasing myself. I admit to being a Campag snob.

Seriously I think once you get to the top 2 of both ranges they're both excellent, and a lot boils down purely to personal preference. Some Shimano users don't like the more mechanical nature of Campag, which in some cases is what Campag users do prefer.

I saw something from Matt White who now rides for Discovery and switched from a Campag team to a Shimano one comparing the two. He basically said both worked superbly and the only real difference for him was in the levers. He said having smaller hands he liked the Campagnolo ergos over the Shimano sti ones.

I rode a test bike which was fitted with Shimano, and only having paws myself just found the levers too big and they consequently felt clumsy to use. That is the real reason (and the fixed position brake lever) why I would only use Campagnolo. (SRAM an option in the future?)

He doesn't at Milram, but at T-Mobile Zabel used Nokon cables with Shimano to create a tight bend and put the cables behind the bar tape, ala Campag and clear the clutter.
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Postby Matthew Ives » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:49 am

Just to add something to this.
Those of us of ***ahem*** a certain age who remember watching racing in the 60's and 70's and much of the 80's will know that Campag was the de facto choice for all components and hence has a certain nostalgia.
As a boy, looking in bike shop windows at a Super Record rear mech was like looking at ultra expensive jewelery. Back then there was no choice. Campag was the best.Bar none.
That same nostalgia lives on today. I suspect a fair few of us older cyclist choose Campag over the fishing gear for the very same sentimental reasons.
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Postby Mike I » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:38 pm

Since we're here, I might mention that I once went to the Shimano web-site (no, I can't remember why either) and got a page with a load of fishing equipment on it :? . At least the Italians only do bike stuff.
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Postby Matthew Ives » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:52 pm

[quote]At least the Italians only do bike stuff.

and tractors
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Postby Sylv » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:08 pm

And car wheels

[img]http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/Countach/CountachLP400S/1121034-wheel.jpg[/img]
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Postby Andrew G » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:52 pm

Lamborghini started out making tractors.

Campagnolo is also employed by NASA and F1 to make some of the more intricate bits and pieces they need as they are the recognised world experts in producing small technical things in carbon fibre.

So there, stick that on the of your fishing rod! :D
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Postby jon avery » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:18 pm

Lambourgini also make tractors :lol: Yamaha also make organs it doesn't mean their motorbikes are crap :lol:
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