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Postby Robh » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:59 am

The Cervleo's have a life time warranty so if after 6 years it breaks your ok. Whereas the Scott only has a 5 year quarantee.

Buy the groupset online instead of a LBS much cheaper.

Zipp hubs arent too hot, not sure if they have been improved on recently. Lots of issues with play.

Wheels if you want some deep 50mm rims (tubs) similar to the 404 which are about 58mm you could try custom built M5 wheels which would work out cheaper and same weight. I heard a price quoted of 1080 euro's (£735).

Have a look at this link talks about the M5 rims :-

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/phpBB ... hp?t=28936

http://www.m5-ligfietsen.nl/site/EN/

Pic of a Cervelo R3:-
[img]http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t209/sbc205/cervelor36250006dr1.jpg[/img]

Look 585 :-
[img]http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t209/sbc205/Look585.jpg[/img]

Scott Addict :-
[img]http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t209/sbc205/addictetscale001ia3.jpg[/img]

Colnago Extreme:-
[img]http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t209/sbc205/Colnago.jpg[/img]
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Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:53 pm

Rob,
Cool pics 8)

the Cervelo is mouthwatering, (My wife likes the wall as the best background :!: ) and the Scott must be under UCI weight with that kit. The Lightweights are sublime, but for my money, don't work with the look frame. Colnagos are nice, but a tad heavy in Kg and £

The M5's are of particular interest. i have cheched the website, but cannot find built wheels. Do you have any info you could send?

paul.tunnell@landg.com

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Postby Andrew G » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:09 pm

Simple really Paul, go to Dauphin, Pearson's, Sigma, and GBs see what you like and take as many test rides as possible. For this money they should be falling over themselves to help you. :D

The Cervelo's are fantastic and I think the Alu Soloist is pretty light unless your dead set on carbon.

I guess you have a certain loyalty to Pearson's (great shop) but with the ACC discount GBs has got to be a strong contenter, particularly as they do Look, Pinerello, and Cervelo frames. Don't know if George's delay is the shop or Bianchi themselves.

Think you're right about the lightweights on the Look, ironically they make it look heavy. :wink:
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Postby Marek » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:28 pm

Does anybody know the weight differential between the Alloy Cervelo Soloist and the Carbon Soloist?

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Postby Robh » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:48 pm

Hi Paul,

I've dropped M5 an email about built wheels will let you know their reply.

Otherwise I will most probably buy the parts and get someone to build them up as I have a Powertap hub I need the rear rim built onto.

Rob

P.S The R3 looks good in flesh saw one in Dauphins last week. Also they have a SLC-SL there as well built up.
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Postby Robh » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:50 pm

[quote="Marek"]Does anybody know the weight differential between the Alloy Cervelo Soloist and the Carbon Soloist?

Cheers

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A Cervelo Solist in 58 is around 1400g

A 54cm Carbon Solist is around 1200g

Quite porky compared to the R3 which is sub 900g
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Postby Marek » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:52 pm

I presume that is the Carbon version, anyone know what the Alloy one weighs in the same size?
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Postby Robh » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:00 pm

That Colnago in the pic weighs just under 6.8kg
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Postby Elliot M » Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:32 am

New version of Soloist Carbon, SLC-SL claims to save 200g to bring it under 1000g.

USD4500 though.

http://www.cervelo.com/bikes.aspx?bike=SLCSL2007
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Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:02 am

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lovely, but that price tag ££££££££££££

looking at wheels, I have come across the Easton tempest 11 which are light, aero and reasonably priced. Steve Dennis (the other one) reckons they're good!!

And they look good.

Anyone know of them?

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Postby Elliot M » Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:45 am

alan has eastons for his new colnago, but not sure if same model.... think he might have the ascents?
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Postby Robh » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:55 pm

[quote="mrpvt"]
looking at wheels, I have come across the Easton tempest 11 which are light, aero and reasonably priced. Steve Dennis (the other one) reckons they're good!!

Paul


Review here :-
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=3849

Those wheels are a 30mm rim and what I've read on the web there isn't much difference between a 30mm and 19mm rim in terms of aeordynamics but things improve when you start going 38mm & plus...

Even the review says :-
"The wheels are semi-aerodynamic shaped without being so much so that you'd avoid using them on a windy day - the 30 mm rim is a good choice, paired with the bladed spokes (18 front, 20 rear). The semi-aero shape isn't enough to add any benefit from reduced wind drag, but they do allow for shorter spokes, which in turn increase the overall strength of the wheel".
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Postby Elliot M » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:39 pm

389 on ebay

[url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Easton-Tempest-II-Wheels-RRP-499-99_W0QQitemZ270101081992QQcategoryZ58089QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem]here[/url]
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Postby Sylv » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:21 pm

Easton - wasn't Paul talking of the tubular/carbon version?

Also for a good price/weight ratio check out the Campag-only Reynolds which are 1/3 off on CRC

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.a ... 5360025007
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Postby Robh » Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:18 pm

[quote="Sylv"]Easton - wasn't Paul talking of the tubular/carbon version?

Also for a good price/weight ratio check out the Campag-only Reynolds which are 1/3 off on CRC

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.a ... 5360025007


One of the better Carbon tubulars according weight weenies are the Reynold wheels. Better hubs and more durable rims compared to Zipps.
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