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Vino tests positive !

Postby Brian Nolan » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:31 pm

guess you guy's have all read the shock news ?
Vino has ( apparently) tested positive for someone ( i can't say or spell the proper word ), elses blood !
what next - who can we believe in ? this is real bad news ...

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Postby Elliot M » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:50 pm

i can't believe anyone is that shocked, see previous thread:

http://www.addiscombe.org/members/phpBB ... sc&start=0

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Postby Dombo » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:54 pm

Ugh! And to think I taped over a superb episode of The Shield to catch last night's highlights of the stage on ITV4.

Still, should be able to pick up some discounted Astana replica kit in GB's.
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Postby Ian A4size » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:06 pm

Must have been the victory pint :roll:
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Postby Will » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:02 pm

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From Sean Yates' website

Postby the other Steve Dennis » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:48 pm

[quote]

Tuesdy 24th July 2007 - Tour de France - UPDATE 17.00

sh1t. I don't believe it. A couple of hours ago we got the news here that Vino was caught positive for
blood doping after the Time Trial he won on friday. And that him and his team have quit the Tour
and gone home.
Its sort of knocked me for six, and stressed me out.
Up until now I think I have always avoided the darker side of cycling. But these people are possibly
messing up me and my familys livelyhoods, and that makes me angry.
So, from looking forward to tomorrows stage, everybody is now in a state of shock.


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Postby Will » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:03 pm

http://www.ibelievevino.com/

caution: uses a rude word :wink:
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Postby Andrew G » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:21 pm

[quote]I feel sorry for Andreas Kloeden

I wasn't quite sure about him. When I've seen him interviewed etc he seems a nice guy, but T-Mobile said that they offered the same contract to him that Astana did, yet he chose to move. All at exactly the same time that they introduced their new internal doping controls. Just seemed a bit fishy as he wasn't exactly best mates with Vino when they were at T-Mobile together.
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Postby Toks » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:50 am

[quote="marco"]Eric Boyer drops science
I thought that was Craig G, Cold Chillin Records circa 1987 :lol: :lol:
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Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:10 am

[quote]Still, should be able to pick up some discounted Astana replica kit in GB's.


I was about to get some, but now.......perhaps Milram is a safer bet :?:
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Postby Sylv » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:38 am

[quote]In an interview with Cyclingnews earlier this month, Kazakh Ambassador Erlan Idrissov said the significance of a Kazakh winner on the world stage cannot be underestimated. For the youngsters of Kazakhstan - a country where a rumoured 250,000 of the 15 million population are drug addicts - the example of Vino and Andrey Kashechkin is designed to be inspirational. "Many boys and girls will jump into cycling, they will stay away from drugs and bars and they will have something to devote their lives to," Idrissov said in the interview. "The message will be that they can also achieve success like this.


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Postby Jon H » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:06 am

This reminds me, I'm due to make a blood donation tomorrow.

Anybody want some?
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Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:10 am

Now we know why Rumsas's mum followed him round :wink:
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Postby Richard (Apples) » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:46 am

[quote]Interestingly if riders are now using homologous rather than autologous doping that both Vinos dad and Levi's dad have been following the route of the tour. I bet they are as white as a sheet now!


Vino

"I heard that I made a transfusion with my father's blood. That's absurd, I can tell you that with his blood, I would have tested positive for vodka."


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Postby Will » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:47 am

I'd forgotten what the point of blood transfusing was so just reminded myself from this [url=http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=features/2005/avoid_positive]neat summary[/url] (which though from 2005 is presumably still accurate). Thought I'd post it in case others wanted to remind themselves.

[quote]In a similar vein is autologous blood doping, which involves removing blood a few weeks prior to competition then replacing the red cells just before the event. The body has regenerated the blood in that time, so the additional red cells provide extra haemoglobin and therefore a greater oxygen capacity.

A more risky procedure is homologous blood doping, which involves injecting a different person's (with compatible blood) red blood cells, giving the same boost. Although it eliminates the inconvenience of an athlete to withdraw/regenerate their own blood in the first place, it carries with it a greater risk of contracting blood borne diseases such as HIV/AIDS, as well as becoming sensitised to minor blood group proteins, so that transfused blood may be rejected further down the line.


I wonder if it was a deliberate use of the word "vein" :)

Likewise, I am astounded the Vino resorted to using someone else's blood!
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