Where have all the hundred gone?
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Re: where is everyone
by -Adam- » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:51 pm
[quote="Paul on the Pearson"]1570 yards
Why oh why must the TT world insist on using such a dated method of measuring climbs, i mean get with the times please!
Andrew, fear not, at some point next year, the GIANT is to mutate into a TT weapon when i will have a crack at upsetting the established order
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by Andrew G » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:33 pm
[quote]Why oh why must the TT world insist on using such a dated method of measuring climbs, i mean get with the times please!
Adam,
It isn't actually old fashoined.
School time
: 1,760 yards = 1 mile and we measure distances in miles in Great Britain as we haven't converted to metric like mainland Europe.
Therefore quoting the hill climb distance in yards is perfectly correct. The odd distance is just because that's how long the hill is.
In the main TTs still use the standard distances/times of 10 miles, 25 miles, 50 miles, 100 miles, 12 hours, and 24 hours.
There are some exceptions to the rule which are:
Hill climbs - they're just how long that particular hill is.
Sporting Courses - these were introduced as a lot of the fast courses had become dangerous due to increased traffic flow, there were tragically some deaths on these fast courses from cars joining the road at spear-point junctions and not realising just how fast the tester was bombing down the road (they didn't expect a man on a bike to be doing 40mph).
The Sporting courses tend to be based around country lanes, which makes for a more interesting although testing course as they tend to include drags and hills. It was also hoped that this would focus riders on their finishing position rather than time so as to stop people chasing after the fast, and as a result normally more dangerous courses, as every course would be completely different and comparison of times less relevant. Jon H kicks some backside in these in the South East SPOCO (SPOrtingCOurses) series. The Rudy Project competition is the National series. Gethin Butler is having an easier season this year but he is king of the sporting events.
As they are country lanes they aren't always "standard" distances as they are routed to find a good course with a suitable start and finish point so you have 12 and 15 mile events for example.
Well worth a punt is the SCCU Sporting Weekend at the beginning of the year. This is a Sporting 10 on the Saturday (a sort of figure of 8 circuit), followed by a Sporting 25 (a 2 lap course on different roads to the 10) on the Sunday. SCCU points for ACC and a prizes for the fastest "no tri-bars", and handicap.
Place to Place - Run by the Road Records Association (RRA) and as it says, e.g. London to Bath and back. The most famous is obviously Land's End to John O'Groats. Gethin holds the current record for this set in 2001 and is 1 Day 20 hrs 4min 19 seconds!
Lesson over.
The Giant would make a good TT bike. I think quite a lot of people have converted their Giant TCRs to TT bikes when they get a new road bike as the sloping top tube helps make a good compact frame so you can keep the front end low and get a good aero position, assuming you can ride in it anyway.
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by Sylv » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:34 pm
I was quite the stealth rider - Sean you'll be pleased to recognize your favourite piece of kit
http://www.mphotography.smugmug.com/gal ... 99747-L-LB
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I love these race photos of you Sylv, you always stick your tongue out for the photographer while keeping an otherwise serious expression on your face. by -Adam- » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:48 pm
But Andrew, I like many other a young whippersnapper have only ever been taught Metric and thus havn't a hope in the world of understanding this Imperial lark!
Added to this as a trainee construction professional all measurements are in millimetres and meters, its been this way since 1967. I really wish this country would adopt KM etc for distances on road signs and the like. Then we could have 40km/h zones instead of 30mph which would make a lot of sense, as does 130km/h in the dry on the motorway!
And when do you ever buy an a pound of butter, or sugar, you don't! Most drinks also come in metric sizes, barring draft beer and milk of course. So lets have nice round units to make all our lives more simple!!
Added to this as a trainee construction professional all measurements are in millimetres and meters, its been this way since 1967. I really wish this country would adopt KM etc for distances on road signs and the like. Then we could have 40km/h zones instead of 30mph which would make a lot of sense, as does 130km/h in the dry on the motorway!
And when do you ever buy an a pound of butter, or sugar, you don't! Most drinks also come in metric sizes, barring draft beer and milk of course. So lets have nice round units to make all our lives more simple!!
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by Andrew G » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:06 pm
Just explaining the reasoning, I'd be happy to convert to metric and join the rest of Europe it would make life a lot easier.
I suffer from being in the age bracket that's neither one thing or the other. I end up mixing imperial and metric depending on what I'm talking about. I really switch about when, for example measuring a shelf, I tend to use mm but if it's a round inch then I use that
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As a country we're a bit mad with it. If it's hot we say it's 90 degrees, but then when it's cold we say it's 1 degree
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I don't buy sugar I just borrow a cup from the neighbour.
I suffer from being in the age bracket that's neither one thing or the other. I end up mixing imperial and metric depending on what I'm talking about. I really switch about when, for example measuring a shelf, I tend to use mm but if it's a round inch then I use that
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As a country we're a bit mad with it. If it's hot we say it's 90 degrees, but then when it's cold we say it's 1 degree
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I don't buy sugar I just borrow a cup from the neighbour.
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by Andrew G » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:30 pm
Another quality 12hr ride from an Addiscombe member, just not on such smooth roads as Richard, Paul, and Tamar.
Well done Sylv 13th overall!
[url]http://ccgi.timelaps.force9.co.uk/htdocs/MD2D07_07-10-07.htm[/url]
Well done Sylv 13th overall!
[url]http://ccgi.timelaps.force9.co.uk/htdocs/MD2D07_07-10-07.htm[/url]
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by Sylv » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:36 pm
Can you spot two other members or ex-members in the solos?
Another one!
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/1517308720_536b789718_o.jpg[/img]
It was good starting with Beastway/Palace regulars Vik and Stuart (Dynamo), I slowed down my pace after the first lap, Vik carried on to an impressive 6th place but Stuart and I then kept yo-yoing and bumping into each other, he blew out a bit towards the end.
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/1516026231_7c07127d7e_o.jpg[/img] Stuart
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2045/1517302140_270c3594e3_o.jpg[/img] Vik
Sorry Adam this post is a bit of a mess by now!
Another one!
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/1517308720_536b789718_o.jpg[/img]
It was good starting with Beastway/Palace regulars Vik and Stuart (Dynamo), I slowed down my pace after the first lap, Vik carried on to an impressive 6th place but Stuart and I then kept yo-yoing and bumping into each other, he blew out a bit towards the end.
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/1516026231_7c07127d7e_o.jpg[/img] Stuart
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2045/1517302140_270c3594e3_o.jpg[/img] Vik
Sorry Adam this post is a bit of a mess by now!
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by Mike I » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:08 am
[quote]To slightly miss quote Thomas Hobbes
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What next? Friedrich Nietzsche explains why he prefers a bacon sandwich to Renate's fruit cake. And J S Mill takes us back over Box Hill...
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