Best time for Ditchling Beacon?

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Re: Best time for Ditchling Beacon?

Postby Robh » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:45 pm

[quote="Seanieh_LanterneRouge©"]A mate at work has done it from the junction at the base to the car park at the top in less than 5mins 30seconds.

Anyone done it faster?


Stuart Dangerfield in the 1995 hill climb championship did 3-45.2

1. Stuart Dangertield (Leo RC-Shorter Rochford) ............ 3 45.2
2. Jeff Wright (North East RT) ............ 3 54.2
3. Chris Newton (North Wirral Velo)........ 4 02.6
4. Chris Myhill (Chesterfield Coureurs)...... 4 09.2
5. Rob Harris (Optimum Performance RT) ... 4 12.6
6. Brian Green (Oldham Century RC) ....... 4 12.9
7. S. Bray (Team Energy) ................ 4 16.2
8. R. Taylor (VC Venta) ................. 4 17.8
9. T. Lawn (Kingston Wheelers) ........... 4 17.9
10. S. Green (Oldham Century) ............ 4 19.1
11. G. Dodd (Kingston Phoenix)............ 4 21.5
12. G. Stirzaker (Middridge CRT) ........... 4 21.6
13. R. Eden (Optimum Performance RT) ..... 4 22.0
14. M. Sewell (Southport RCC) ............ 4 24.0
15. J. Henderson (Oxford University CC) ..... 4 25.3
16. I. Akhurst (Sydenham Wheelers) ........ 4 27.5
17. P. Manning (N Wirral Velo)............. 4 27.7
18. D. Axford (Team Energy) .............. 4 28.4
19. M. Turnbull (TS Tameside) ............. 4 30.2
20. M. Green (Jamor RT)................. 4 30.6
21. A. Williams (Cwmcarn Paragon)......... 4 30.9
22. P. Marshall (JPM Racing).............. 4 30.9
23. J. Robson (North East RT) ............. 4 31.0
24. R. Jackson (Reading CC) .............. 4 31.4
25. M. Downes (Exel RT) ................. 4 33.3
26. R. Horner (Fareham Wheelers).......... 4 34.4
27. J. Ramsbottom (N Wirral Velo) ......... 4 36.0
28. M. Goodes (De Laune CC) ............. 4 36.0
29. K. Russell (Coventry CC) .............. 4 36.1
30. T. Bayley (VC Deal) .................. 4 37.4
31. N. Harrigan (Wigmore CC) ............. 4 38.7
32. J. Wood (Coventry CC) ............... 4 39.1
33. Z. Carr (Leo RC) .................... 4 40.1
34. A. Green (VC Etoile).................. 4 40.7
35. C. Roy (Mansfield RC) ................ 4 41.8
36. S. House (Leo RC)................... 4 43.8
37. R. Smith (VC Etoile).................. 4 43.8
38. M. Flynn (Oldham Century) ............ 4 44.1
39. C. Hill (Bath CC) .................... 4 44.4
40. M. Sinnott (Festival RC)............... 4 45.5
41. S. Walton (Rossendale RC) ............ 4 46.4
42. S. Mitchell (Kingston Phoenix).......... 4 46.4
43. S. Nunn (London Dynamo) ............ 4 48.0
44. S. Baxter (TS Tameside)............... 4 48.5
45. D. Earp (Zenith CC) .................. 4 48.7
46. S. Dennis (East Grinstead CC) .......... 4 49.1
47. N. Baker (Apollo RT) ................. 4 49.9
48. G. Taylor (Coventry CC) ............... 4 50.8
49. S. Fewell (Exeter Wh)................. 4 51.5
50. P. Holdsworth (Hounslow & District Wh) . . 4 51.6
51. P. Brierley (Huddersfield RC) ........... 4 51.6
52. A. Merrill (Archer RC) ................ 4 51.7
53. I. Brazier (Verulam CC) ............... 4 52.0
54. S. Elms (East Grinstead CC)............ 4 52.3
55. A. Selzer (East Grinstead CC) ........... 4 52.4
56. J. O'Brien (De Laune CC) .............. 4 53.2
57. N. Morgan (Tooting BC)............... 4 53.3
58. G. Arnold (High Wycombe CC).......... 4 54.4
59. S. O'Brien (Icknield RC) ............... 4 55.3
60. S. Foster (North Notts Olympic) ......... 4 55.4
61. M. Martin (Southborough & Dist Wh) .... 4 57.1
62. A. Tarry (VC St Raphael) .............. 4 57.4
63. K. Walker (Wigmore CC) .............. 4 58.4
64. G. Brook (Clarence Wheelers) .......... 5 00.0
65. D. Bentley (CC Giro) ................. 5 00.1
66. N. Byrne (Withington Wh) ............. 5 00.4
67. K. Richardson (VC Slough) ............ 5 01.3
68. R. Clements (Gloucester City CC) ........ 5 02.2
69. C. Taylor (Team 2000) ................ 5 02.4
70. S. Joseph (Catford CC) ............... 5 02.7
71. M. Doe (CC Weymouth)............... 5 03.2
72. M. Whitehead (VC Deal)............... 5 03.3
73. W. Davis (Sussex Nomads) ............ 5 03.6
74. A. Spittlehouse (Calder Clarion CC) ...... 5 04.4
75. A. Tovey (Chelmer CC)................ 5 06.0
76. M. Mallen (Tyne Velo) ................ 5 06.2
77. M. Chester (TS Tameside) ............. 5 07.5
78. M. Payne (Seacroft Wh)............... 5 10.9
79. J. Armstrong (Featherstone RC)......... 5 10.9
80. C. Lea (Buxton CC) .................. 5 11.6
81. G. Beerling (Sydenham Wh)............ 5 11.6
82. D. Rowbottom (Oldham Century)........ 5 11.9
83. N. Foskett (GS Stella)................. 5 13.4
84. S. Freeman (Chelmer CC).............. 5 14.8
85. S. Richards (Vectis RCC) .............. 5 15.4
86. D. Taylor (Sydenham Wh) ............. 5 17.8
87. M. Chamberlain (Wigmore CC).......... 5 17.9
88. A. Payne (Seacroft Wheelers)........... 5 19.9
89. C. Lamb (Alford Wh) ................. 5 20.1
90. M. Cope (Catford CC)................. 5 21.6
91. J. Goodrum (Catford CC) .............. 5 21.8
92. P. Varian (Midland C&AC) ............. 5 23.8
93. J. Stroud (Swan Velo) ................ 5 26.7
94. R. Keevil (GS Stella) ................. 5 30.3
95. P. Griffin (Middlesex RC) .............. 5 33.7
96. T. Pain (North Hampshire RC) .......... 5 34.2
97. R. Selby (CC Abergavenny) ............ 5 37.3
98. A. Cossar (Featherstone RC) ........... 5 37.8
99. S. Bonnington (Hillingdon CC) .......... 5 50.7
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Postby Andrew G » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:16 pm

Take your stopwatch on the next CBC. :D
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Postby tel » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:10 am

Just a thought, but how does Ditchling compare to the Cols in jthe Alps.

I know that the Euro mountains are a lot longer but how about steepnest wise.

Ditchling always nearly kills me.

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Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:27 am

Best time to climb Ditchling is in the Summer :?
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Postby -Adam- » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:40 am

[quote="tel"]Just a thought, but how does Ditchling compare to the Cols in jthe Alps.

I know that the Euro mountains are a lot longer but how about steepnest wise.

Ditchling always nearly kills me.

Terry


Imagine Ditchling, but about 5-8 times longer!!

Steepness wise, its probably not as bad as the majority of Alps, i don't know what gradient Ditcling is. But theres a major difference between Box Hills 5.1% and say 16km at 7.5%. Major.

I learnt this the hard way in June, was good fun though :?
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Postby Stu Merckx Man » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:00 pm

adams right, they are major. but the good thing about them is, you may have an uber steep part for a mile or so, but then you may get a flat bit, or a slightly down hill section that lets you recover a bit. i recon if you took it slow enough anyone could get up them. once you get into the zone nothing can stop you :P
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Postby George » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:07 pm

I'd say that the alps are not as steep as Ditchling Beacon.

Ditchling is short and sharp, most of the alps are just a little steeper than Box hill, but are at least 10 times the distance.

Ditchling's steepness average% is in the high teens whereas the most difficult/steep climbs in the alps only average 10%.

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Postby Jon H » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:42 pm

[quote="George"]Chalk and Cheese


Well, I knew the South Downs were made of chalk, but never realised the Alps were made of Cheese.

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Sean beat me to that joke. :evil:
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Postby Robh » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:43 pm

Sign post for Ditchling says 10%
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Postby Andrew G » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:01 pm

I think there's a mental aspect Terry. In the UK the hills are all relatively short so you tend to go harder at them.

In the Alps (1st trip this year :D) I knew I had between say 10km (climb back up to chalet) and 31km (Croix de Fer) ahead of me so I put it in a lower gear and settled in to a rhythm. I'd never climbed for so long before so didn't want to blow up, having climbed say Alpe h'Huez I know I could climb it quicker next time, but first time out (and first mountain) I didn't want to get to bend 6 and run out of gas knowing I still had 5 more hairpins and about 4km left to go.

The "worst" climb was the Saulude on PVT's adventure, but that was only because I didn't know how long it was. It was 9% just about all the way for 9.5km but having been told "climb a bit" :roll: I'd gone too hard at the bottom. Once I'd translated the "bit" it was a very nice climb as I "settled in" a bit. It was a tough one as well because it was a steep gradient all the way, no easy 3-5% sections to recover, I think it was 9.5% or 9% for most of it with a couple of "easy" bits at 7.5%.
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Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:43 pm

I don't think there is much between the gradient of Ditchling and sections of the Croix de Fer, and the ramps on Alpe D'Huez at times equal that gradient, but the length of them is relentless.

Don't believe Stu, there are NO flat bits - ask Adam....
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Postby Stu Merckx Man » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:05 pm

on the col du mente, half way up theres a 500m section of down hill, and on the col du pyresourde there was a mile or so of level ish road, probably 1 or 2%....but i spose that might still be a struggle you sprinters :lol: ....im looking forward to the up hill finish at hillingdon :P :wink:
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Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:08 pm

There is a drop on the Col de Croix de Fer, but you end up climbing higher anyway, so hardly costitutes a "rest".

Where exactly is uphill at Hillingdon?
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Postby Stu Merckx Man » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:12 pm

thats it paul, if denial stops the fear stick with it :twisted:
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Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:13 pm

Oooohhh errr, have I touched a nerve there?
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