Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

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Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Andrew G » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:18 pm

As mentioned at the cafe I'm doing an alternate run next week.

Meet: 9am as usual ( :roll: :lol: ) at CSS
Speed: Steady pace suitable for 18s riders or above (although there is no way we'll average 18mph), but if you want a training group type ride then probably not for you as the pace will be steady not up and down too much. If you are feeling flighty then you can always do the hills twice :) .
Route: 55 miles in the Surrey/Kent borders lanes - Gmap [url=http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1576330]here[/url]. Same as I did the other Sunday so full details are under that [url=http://www.addiscombe.org/members/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5881]post[/url]. A tough route with 2 or 3 long drags (sometimes in to a headwind) and a number of hills. The hills include about 4 or 5 worth mentioning, plus one hard one (Slines Oak) and one very hard one (Toys).
Cafe stop: At about 40-45 miles at the Reptile Zoo in Tatsfield.
Group size: 12ish, no more than 15 or it'll be too unmanageable. Just show your face when the ride is called at CSS.

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Andrew.
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby mlocke » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:06 pm

Hi Andrew

I'll be up for this one again - nice and refreshed this time though
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Andrew G » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:09 am

Sean I can assure you it will feel further than 55 miles, bring your climbing legs.
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Andrew G » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:29 pm

Not a problem if you use a winter bike and not your fancy dan carbon number. :wink:
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Snoop Doug » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:07 pm

I must've recovered from Ashdown quicker than I thought - I keep looking anviously @ this trip - can't get out for next two weekends :( have a good one
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby carl f » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:59 pm

I'm up for this andrew,do you roughly know the time it will take?
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Andrew G » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:14 pm

I did the route (starting from GBs so a bit shorter) with a few likely lads the other week and we averaged 16mph. It was very windy but to counter that we had Keith sitting on the front towing us round :D . We didn't have a cafe stop either.

I think 16s would make it about a 3 1/2 hour ride, plus the time of the cafe stop, probably 4 hours+ on Saturday depending how long we stop for. If you need to get back earlier there are various bail points from Polhill on, which would allow you to head back via a faster route.

I'll ask Monty to send us off first from CSS so we can get under way.

(I think you could well fall in to the do the hills twice camp the speed you go up the damn things, the ride rule is you have to wait for me at the top of them :D .)
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby carl f » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:21 pm

Exellent,sounds good will see you on sat at 9.am
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Mike I » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:33 pm

Right then, I've had a whole month with a much reduced sauce and chocolate intake, so I should be up for this.
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Paul on the Pearson » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:51 pm

I'll be up for this one. Hopefully I'm doing the Tour of Flanders sportive so the more hills the better.
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby -Adam- » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:18 pm

[quote="Paul on the Pearson"]I'll be up for this one. Hopefully I'm doing the Tour of Flanders sportive so the more hills the better.


See you in Brugge then...
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Snoop Doug » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:52 pm

[quote="Seanieh_PengeDaddy©"]Andrew, I'll stay with the CR this weekend as it sounds like VC wise we might be stretched. This has nothing to do with getting cold feet, oh no. Nothing to do with fears at being dropped on each and every hill, oh no.

Sean


You big wuss :twisted: :lol: says he who isn't coming out to play at all this weekend...... :oops:
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Snoop Doug » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:56 pm

In the big ring I hope :shock: :twisted: :shock:
I've got some turbo time booked so I'll think of you sufferin up the hill when I'm crankin the pedals. :mrgreen:
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby mlocke » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:33 pm

I hope some slow people are coming on this cos I need someone to ride round with :)
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Re: Alternate CR - Sat 2nd Feb

Postby Andrew G » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:12 pm

Where were you Mark?

What a beautiful day, clear blue skies and no sign of the ice age that according to the doom merchants was supposed to have descended upon us overnight.

13 of us set out from CSS for my little meander through some hills in the Surrey/Kent borders. I switched the start as we were due to go up to Selsdon and then through some little lanes, but these can be a bit sketchy so thought they’d be best avoided early on in case of ice.

We headed to Purley and then I took us up St.James Road instead :twisted: . It’s quite short but I think it’s about 25-30% and you join it with a tight left hander that doubles you back on itself, so you have more or less a standing start.

Carl is simply phenomenal on hills and shot off up it. I think a few in the group haven’t ridden with Carl before as there were a few noises of shock amongst the swearing at me. :D

From here on via another climb to take us past Warlingham and out to the countryside. Next up Slines Oak Road for more pain before the long run down Titsey before dropping down to Four Elms.

As we got to Limpsfield Chart we started pulling away from someone, sorry I don’t know your name, so we stopped by the National Trust car park for him to catch up. We had a quick chat and he said that he wouldn’t be able to hang on, but knew where he was so was happy to head off on his own loop.

Down the wonderfully named Pootings Lane to Four Elms and then off to play with Toy’s. Usual form here with everyone winching themselves up at their own pace before a full regroup on the other side in Westerham. My legs were starting to get going by now and I felt pretty good from here on in.

On Polhill a couple were starting to feel the strain though and were dropping back further on the climbs. At the regroup at the top Andy said he knew another little hill we could go via to drop in on Shire Lane rather than have to stay on the main road down to the second roundabout. Good call as we turned off at the fist (Cudham) roundabout and went over a nice little climb which had the added advantage of being a one way road so no cars heading towards you on a narrow road.

At Shire we noticed that we had lost Eric (on a tricolour Roberts). He’d been one of the riders suffering but no-one had realised he had slipped off the back. We waited for a little while and I looped back up the hill to see if he was stuck at the top with a puncture but no sign. Sorry and I hope you got home okay, but please remember everyone if you are suffering on one of these rides do shout out. I can then make sure we all ease off a touch until we get to a point where I can point you off on a shortcut back as there are normally plenty of bail points on the route.

I did this ride a couple of weeks ago with a few chaps, one of whom was Kasper who was going great guns and making us suffer at times. Today Grant, Ant, and I got a bit of payback as it was his turn to suffer and we were all going well (particularly Ant who’s riding very strongly).

What makes this a tough loop is that in addition to all the hills and drags the last section is nearly always in to a headwind, and we’d now turned in to it. The drag along Shire, and climb up to Downe really strung us out a bit as the accumulation of effort started to take its toll on some.

At Biggin Hill there was the sound of cracking whips and some of our number had to head back to their homestead. They turned off as the rest of us headed up the drag through the village towards Tatsfield.

A bit of fun in the centre of the village as a removal van had over loaded in a drive and then grounded out as he came out blocking the whole road. Chaos for the cars, and the remaining six of us just nipped past on the pavement, power to the cyclist :D .

The continuing drag strung it out again before turning off for the small climb/drag up to Tatsfield and the café stop.

A very welcome tea and bacon sarnie at the Reptile Zoo, Kasper looked tempted by Beaver World but his smile faded when I explained what it was. :D

The final fling now via Beddlestead and up Hessier’s Hill, just to torment the legs a bit more, before heading for our various homes.

Good ride, good weather, good group. Quality nice.

No CR next week for me, but see some of you at the Swan in West Wickham at 7:15-7:30 on Sunday for the Old Ports Reliability Ride.
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