ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

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ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Keith » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:49 pm

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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Tim Coales » Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:41 am

Addiscombe vs. Norwood Paragon Inter-Club '10' - 08/07/08 Results
Start No. Name Club Start Time Time Pos (Best 6)
1 Paul Tunnell ADDISCOMBE CC 19.31 30.38 24th
2 Jon Masters REDHILL CC (2nd claim NP) 19.32 29.09 19th
3 Chloe Thomas ADDISCOMBE CC 19.33 34.25 35th
4 George English N PARAGON CC 19.34 34.59 36th
5 Ed Oliver ADDISCOMBE CC 19.35 DNS
6 Nick Ffoulkes N PARAGON CC 19.36 30.58 27th
7 Chris Scarlet TSN (2nd claim ACC) 19.37 30.55 26th
8 Paul James N PARAGON CC 19.38 29.39 20th
9 Sue Ritchie ADDISCOMBE CC 19.39 38.20 38th
10 Russell Painter N PARAGON CC 19.40 DNS
11 Jonathan Bailey ADDISCOMBE CC 19.41 31.10 28th
12 Hal Bransby ADDISCOMBE CC 19.42 32.05 31st
13 Matt Day ADDISCOMBE CC 19.43 31.45 30th
14 Simon Hazeldine N PARAGON CC 19.44 28.17 10th
15 Ben Jones ADDISCOMBE CC 19.45 30.11 22nd
16 Marcus Brueton N PARAGON CC 19.46 27.27 6th (5th NP)
17 Ian Pringle ADDISCOMBE CC 19.47 35.11 37th
18 Rob Douglas N PARAGON CC 19.48 28.45 13th
19 Ben Fancourt ADDISCOMBE CC 19.49 33.59 33rd
20 Simon Warren N PARAGON CC 19.50 26.58 3rd (3rd NP)
21(27) Robert Wright ADDISCOMBE CC 19.51 30.23 23rd
22 Justin Lomas N PARAGON CC 19.52 29.08 =17th
23 Mike Wallace ADDISCOMBE CC 19.53 28.04 9th (3rd ACC)
24 Daniel Gower ADDISCOMBE CC 19.54 29.45 21st
25 Andrew Green ADDISCOMBE CC 19.55 30.39 25th
26 David Kennett ND PARAGON CC 19.56 26.29 2nd (2nd NP)
27(21) Ivor Hewitt ADDISCOMBE CC 19.57 31.15 29th
28 Steve Calland N PARAGON CC 19.58 26.11 1st (1st NP)
29 Andy Ellis ADDISCOMBE CC 19.59 28.55 15th
30 Mike Hawkins N PARAGON CC 20.00 27.17 5th (4th NP)
31 Robert Royle-Evatt ADDISCOMBE CC 20.01 32.43 32nd
32 Huw Griffiths ADDISCOMBE CC 20.02 29.08 =17th
33 Sylvain Garde ADDISCOMBE CC 20.03 28.44 12th (5th ACC)
34 Stuart Chamberlayne ADDISCOMBE CC 20.04 28.21 11th (4th ACC)
35 Jon Hemming ADDISCOMBE CC 20.05 28.51 14th (6th ACC)
36 Dominic Lowe ADDISCOMBE CC 20.06 27.58 8th (2nd ACC)
37 Mark Bayliss ADDISCOMBE CC 20.07 34.07 34th
38 George Brent ADDISCOMBE CC 20.08 27.05 4th (1st ACC)
39 Fred Scharz ADDISCOMBE CC 20.09 28.58 16th
40 Chris Moores N PARAGON CC 20.10 27.28 7th (6th NP)
Team Results (Fastest 6 riders of each club)
ACC 02:49:03
NP 02:41:50
NP win by 07:13
Special thanks to Joyce (timekeeping), Paul (Spreadsheet), Jon (promoting), Alex (Marshalling),
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Jon H » Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:41 am

Also Monica & Mark marshalling - a very well marshalled corner at the top of Cooper's Hill, unlike at the bottom turn where NP were conspicuous by their absence.

Note to self: Get yer @rse into gear and do some training, 1:31 slower last night than in 2006. :cry:
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Hal » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:09 am

Several things to learn from this,

If you think you may want to ride get your name on the start list. Thanks to Mr Green senior for getting me into a spare slot.

Turn up in good time feeling fresh, not after riding 20+ miles through London into a headwind.

Relax and focus pre ride, not hurriedly pinning on numbers, removing tool kit, emptying pockets

Arrive early for your allotted time, not running through the start Le mans style

Don't get lost, at least I was able to save Sue from riding to Crawley at the bottom turn

Get some tri bars

Go faster

and dont make jokes about getting a puncture others wise you will on the way home.

I did have fun though, good weather and good company, thanks to all the helpers and supporters.

Hal :D
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Andrew G » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:13 am

It is a nice loop to ride round, horrible to try and race round though!
Beaten by PVT by 1 second :evil:
Thanks to organisers and marshals - I was a touch surprised to see the most important/dodgy turn abandoned Jon :roll: .
Had Mr. Kennett as my minute man so asked him to be kind enough to wait until I was out of sight before he caught me :lol: , got to the motorway bridge after the descent in the end. :D
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Sylv » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:49 am

That was half an hour of pure pain! But that's what it's meant to be. Thanks for that! Glad I vaguely knew the course when it came to the unmarshalled corner.

Would be interesting to mention who had TT apparatus - I know Chris Moores (27:28) was on a plain road bike. So were Simon H, Mike and myself (had my fast wheels though).

Have emailed you Jon & Paul as I think my time should be 28:15 like it showed last night, was about 10s behind Huw G my minute man at the finish who has a 29:08.

We tried to find the pub where we thought everyone had been afterwards (Crown) but it was spookily empty. Where did you go?
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby HuwG » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:54 am

Hi,

Thanks to all the organisers/helpers/timekeepers etc.

Does anyone know if there is a central location for old TT results, would like to know what time I did last time (quicker I would imagine), I think it was 2005, I know we won that time, I don't suppose that happens very often on that course!

Does anyone have a map of the course, I think I went the right way, but tried three different routes last night, one in the car before, one during the race and one as a warm down after the race.

BTW, can someone buy the house at the finish, so we can all park there like we used to!
http://www.fastcropit.com/rcgr/details. ... a999000668

Sylvan was at least 10minutes behind me ... honest!

sadly (well for me, I think 10secs is about right)

Anyway, all very enjoyable :D

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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Sylv » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:25 am

Also, I make the 6 fastest times 2h41'48 for NP and 2h48'34 for ACC, reducing their winning margin to a wafer-thin 6'46! :-)
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Andrew G » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:40 am

Re the kit Sylv I’ve ridden that course…
Twice on a standard road bike - inter-club 2 yrs ago & SCCU 21 this year = 2 laps
Once on road bike with clip on tri-bars – last night as a kit test for the 100.

Personally I think I found the tri-bars quicker, I stayed in a bigger gear and rolled it round more on the downhill/flat/drag sections rather than turning a slightly smaller gear quicker as I probably would have done otherwise.

Being quite a tough Sporting course I don’t think they are as much of an advantage as you may automatically think as on the hills I was out the saddle and on the drops or hoods anyway.

It’ll also depend how used to them you are, and lets face it messrs Kennett, Brueton etc are going to go round rather quickly no matter what the equipment :D .
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Wal » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:43 am

What a cruel and brutal course for a time trial! That grind at the start, and that wall just after the bottom turn...!

My lungs were bursting all the way and a couple of times on the return leg I almost felt like hurling - what a way to spoil a tongue out photo that would have been! I was sooo glad to see the finish.

Glad I did it though, and I'm pretty chuffed to have knocked over 20 seconds off my time from '06. Catching my minute man just before the finish was a bonus too 8)

[quote]Would be interesting to mention who had TT apparatus - I know Chris Moores (27:28) was on a plain road bike. So were Simon H, Mike and myself (had my fast wheels though).


This was obviously a course where an ordinary road bike as opposed to a TT machine was less of a disadvantage than on a traditional TT course. In fact, looking at Chris Moores's time it might not have been a disadvantage at all! George, of course, would have been fast even if he'd been on Granville's shop bike.
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Sylv » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:55 am

I looked at some of the TdF TTers yesterday and was impressed at how stable they looked even though they were powering probably close to 500w. In comparison it felt like I was wobbling all over the place last night. I tried wrapping my hands around the stem on the first downhill but quickly had to revert to grabbing the ergos due to the wind and twisty road, with as flat a back as possible. I also had to get out of the saddle when it felt like, as you say Andrew I could have stay seated with bar extensions.
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Sylv » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:36 am

Huw, I only found results from the past two years on the forum:

ACC NP 2006

Jon 27.20 27.26 Marcus B
Jim 27.29 27.33 Simon W
Michael 28.27 27.37 Nigel C
Mark 30.05 27.48 Rob D
Steve 30.54 27.49 Justin L
Richard 31.57 28.39 Steve W
Dave P 32.24 29.11 Paul D
Brian 32.33 29.22 kevin D
Andrew G 32.40 29.49 Nick F
Nigel 33.57 29.50 Stephen R
Christine 35.31 32.03 Marc



2007

TEAM ADDISCOMBE

33 Jon Hemming Addiscombe CC 27 47
27 Paul Hone Addiscombe CC 28 21
23 Stuart Chamberlayne Addiscombe CC 28 40
29 Adam Cotterell Addiscombe CC 28 42
17 Hal Bransby Addiscombe CC 29 09
25 Sylvain Garde Addiscombe CC 29 19

Total Time 171 58

NORWOOD PARAGON

20 Mike Hawkins Norwood Paragon CC 26 44
16 Dave Kennett Norwood Paragon CC 27 06
18 Justin Lomas Norwood Paragon CC 27 13
24 Marcus Brueton Norwood Paragon CC 27 32
14 Dan Sullivan Norwood Paragon CC 29 20
10 Simon Hazeldine Norwood Paragon CC 29 40

Total Time 167 35
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Tim Coales » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:51 am

Sylvain,

[quote]Have emailed you Jon & Paul as I think my time should be 28:15 like it showed last night, was about 10s behind Huw G my minute man at the finish who has a 29:08.


My apologies to everyone but especially to Huw:
I’ve checked all the split times (still saved on the stopwatch), and I have made a mistake in Huw’s time. :oops: It should have read 1:01:38, not 1:01:08, (actual time 29:38) hence Sylv was 6 seconds behind him on the road, although Sylv’s time is right at 1:01:44 (28:44). This does affect the overall placings from 17th Position onwards, but not the top 6 places for ACC, so no adjustments to the team results.

As Joyce said to me on the way home, you almost couldn’t hear yourself think, let alone each other speak towards the end! Still my mistake though, reading the top line of the stopwatch in the hurry to write it down and call it out in less than 6 seconds. :shock:

Any volunteers to be timekeeper for club events :?:
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Tim Coales » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:02 pm

Fortunately this does not affect the results sheet very much, although again apologies to Huw as it is the worst way round for him to be told he was half a minute slower. :evil:
Revised overall placings:
17th Justin Lomas (Norwood ParagonCC) (not joint 17th with Huw)
18th Jon Masters (Redhill CC)
19th Huw Griffiths (Addiscombe CC)
All other places the same (unless I've made other mistakes!)
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Re: ACC - Norwood Paragon Interclub TT - 8th July

Postby Tim Coales » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:15 pm

Finally from me (I hope)
Thanks to Michelle for number spotting otherwise I think all the results would've been wrong! :wink:
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