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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Andrew G » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:32 pm

Nice one Sonic. Cheeky bugger that Hutch trying to get in on the tongue out contest when he wasn't even racing.
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Robh » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:11 pm

So who won the event?
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Sylv » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:24 pm

It's in the results section Ian Cammish 284 miles and a bit

In order to beat the club record I would need to average 1.5mph more than I did :?

I think I could push it 0.5mph faster on the same bike (including getting rid of the 4-5 minutes stopovers)

And according to George's magic computer:

Disk rear wheel = 0.2mph
Aero helmet = 0.1mph
Better TT position = 0.5mph
Aero bike = 0.1mph
Overshoes = 0.05mph
Skinsuit = 0.05mph


This assumes George doesn't smash the record by 5 miles next year!
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Robh » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:08 pm

Thanks Sylv
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby George » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:15 pm

[quote] I did see two riders drafting each other, they went past me and for as long as I could see them they were in each other's wheel - couldn't believe it. Their number indicated that they'd set off at a minute's interval, so god knows for how long they'd been doing it (that was over the halfway mark).

Before the smart ones step in, no it wasn't a tandem.

Sylv I spotted them as well just before we got onto circuit C, it was well cheeky of the rider behind as he was blatantly drafting, I even spotted a marshal who had chased them up the road to shout at the one behind to get off his wheel, to no avail,
I wonder if he got disqualified. :?
I tried to keep well away from those naughty boy's cos I didn;'t want anything to do with that Kerfuffle :wink:
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Andrew G » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:40 pm

I'd be surprised if their number wasn't taken and action taken with the amount of marshals on the course.

Fail to see the logic. A time trial is a test of your own ability against the clock, if you got a tow from someone then you know it isn't really as fast as you can go so you're only lying to yourself. If someone's sad enough to want to do that let 'em. Even as a National event in amateur TT-ing we're hardly competing for the money.
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Jon H » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:44 pm

Numbers 80 & 81, but I can't remember which one was being naughty.
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Robert » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:48 pm

It was no 80 :twisted: - Hainault rider, I remember because 15 and 88 from same club p*****d me off with their riding.
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Sylv » Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:00 pm

[quote="Jon Hemming"]Numbers 80 & 81, but I can't remember which one was being naughty.

Touché :!:
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Marky Mark » Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:10 pm

You lot are are mad....

Very well done to you all :shock:
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Sylv » Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:48 pm

http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/?p=1813#more-1813

[quote]Cammish :: Win at the National 12hr!
So okay I wasn’t riding a Planet X bike to win the National 12 but I didn’t really expect to finish the event let alone get as far as a photographer! Bearing in mind how close a finish it was (less than a minute ahead of Carl Ruebotham) I wish I’d taken it a bit more seriously now because the Stealth would have been worth at least another mph wouldn’t it?

It probably wouldn’t have made the event any easier though, because I’d still have to have sat on the damned thing for twelve hours which is the thing I’ve always found hard to come to grips with. In set distance events, the faster you go the sooner you finish…but in the twelve hour no matter how fast (or slow) you go you’ve got to do it for twelve hours…..which is why (IMO) anyone who finishes a twelve is a winner. So, 29 years after winning my first National Championship…..and 19 years after winning my last….all of a sudden I’m an expert on the subject!!!
What made the difference this time around then? Having Mr Dawson not enter helped - as did the fact that Nik Bowdler decided not to start! Joe Public says anybody who is any good must be in Beijing….so what’s the big deal? To me…..just that I’ve achieved something I’ve never done before. I’m a 51 year old grey haired clapped out tester (edited by Dave – Planet X boss - somewhere along the way there) and thought I had a bit of decent form this year…..I’ve won other Nationals and broken a few records over the years but have taken such batterings in the majority of twelves I’ve ridden that I honestly never thought I’d see the day I’d win the National. OK….certain riders weren’t there (Dr Hutch taking time out to hand bottles up to Mr Platts), Paul Smith content enough with his Breckland ride….the list goes on….but this was the National and, as they say, you have to be in it to win it and I was well pleased with HOW I did it too! No battering this time around…no bad patches….just a good sound, controlled, steady ride with a race on the finishing circuit when I could see how everyone else was going.
The last hour really was good! (I NEVER thought I’d EVER be able to say that about a 12!) as it was spent racing against Carl (we crossed each other twice each time on the finishing circuit). After spending most of the day keeping relaxed, eating, drinking, conserving energy by using small gears etc I was now actually racing using the 12 and 13 sprockets “giving it some” – I finished at the time keeper just the other side of Little Chesterford and had a little more than 5 minutes to wait to know I’d scraped it!
OK..it’s only the National 12…but me being “made up” would be a gross mis-use of the English language.
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Grahame » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:59 am

[quote="sonic909"]We got there about 2 and half hours in, it was very miserable, cold and wet, we found a good spot to wait for the guys to go past and it was drama from the off... PVT cycled past shouting "NEW BIKE.. QUICK... !!!" so we drove off to set his new bike up and change it for him... his other one had a gear failiure and he had been holding the gear lever in position for about 2 hours!


Would that be a Campagn "Oh No" failure? "Cheap" :P :twisted: eastern european tat!

Bunker!
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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:29 pm

[quote="Grahame"][quote="sonic909"]We got there about 2 and half hours in, it was very miserable, cold and wet, we found a good spot to wait for the guys to go past and it was drama from the off... PVT cycled past shouting "NEW BIKE.. QUICK... !!!" so we drove off to set his new bike up and change it for him... his other one had a gear failiure and he had been holding the gear lever in position for about 2 hours!


Would that be a Campagn "Oh No" failure? "Cheap" :P :twisted: eastern european tat!

Bunker!


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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby mrP(Boonen)VT » Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:32 pm

[quote="Robert"]Great pics!!! What a curious off load by TOMTOM, or should that be the nearly man!? :shock: Can no one ride a 12Hr without changing bike or Kit? :o I only removed my titfer once onto the finishing circuit.


Robert,
The screw came loose and eventually dropped out that holds the gear lever in position. Having spent 2 hours holding the gear lever in position, otherwise it thunked into the 12 as soon as I let go, I decided I would do better on a fully functional bike - otherwise I wouldn't have - and I'm sure you would have done the same.

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Re: National 12 Hour Championships

Postby Robert » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:14 pm

That doesn`t explain the curious offload :shock: , though I know I`ve taken a bottle with my right when offered up on the left side - that was at my first national 12. 8)
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