AGM proposal - sounder for alternative CR

[Amy]

Would anyone like to see a proposal for using my alternative club run [url]http://www.addiscombe.org/members/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7503[/url] put forward for discussion at the AGM?

Doesn't matter if it doesn't receive approval at the meeting but it might start people thinking about it, things and the route in general...

I thought I would sound it out before I made it official

[Jon H]

I don't think it needs approval as such at the AGM, as the club-run route is not part of the club rules. The core business of the AGM is to elect officials, adopt the accounts and vote on any rule changes.

Although there's usually time for general discussion on club activities, so that would be the time for it.

Amy,
Thank you for your constructive suggestion for an alternative club run route, and for your excellent alternative rides that you have been doing, etc, but such a proposal does not warrant a motion at the AGM, as these things evolve naturally (the current route is one that I devised along wih John Smith many years ago!!), with dialogue between members.

I have reproduced the relevant extracts from the club rules, which cover the situation, and I do not think they require changing:

[quote]The objects of the Club are to provide and organise club runs, social cycling, road time trials, track, road and MTB racing, cyclo cross, roller racing, and touring, and to encourage a spirit of good fellowship amongst its members.

[Amy]

Like I said it was merely a thought. Would the committee meetings be more appropriate then?

[mrP(Boonen)VT]

I don't think it needs any such "official" approval - just get the VC's together and agree then tell everyone - it is the communication that is important....job done.

Guru p

[Andrew G]

I'll stand up to be shot at too.

Wherever it is discussed and agreed, or not, with large (70-100) CRs I am in favour of running more than one route every week. (I was going to suggest something along these lines without knowing where it should be sounded out - thanks for drawing initial fire Amy ).

3 route options:
1)Amy's
2)Current CR
3)CR reverse (heading out via Chipstead Valley)

I've taken groups out on 3 and it has been well received. I just think that splitting people over more roads (options 1 & 3 are quieter from the off too) makes more sense with such large numbers. In the event of punctures there is less likely to be group merging, and we will endear ourselves to other traffic more if there is less concentration of numbers.

All 3 options allow meeting and chatting at cafe, but will stagger arrival slightly, and also enable a choice of return routes (Box Hill, Redhill, current CR out route in reverse).

Variety is the spice of life and a number of regular routes would allow people to switch from one to t'other on alternate weeks, including the VC who is leading.

I appreciate that some people have different time limitations to others but this way people would still get home at a similar time each week and would not have routines disrupted.

Sorry of you feel a bit hijacked Amy, I would probably favour the Farthing route as a "usual" except perhaps in certain conditions as Tim says the cattle grid can be a bit leathal when icy.

[quote="mrP(Boonen)VT"]the current route is one that I devised along wih John Smith many years ago

[Amy]

Thanks, Andrew - no I don't feel hijacked I have to admit that I was biting my tongue. After all, where do you discuss the route of the club run, if you can't discuss it at the committee meetings or the AGM?

I'm not proposing we change the club run route at the AGM but just discuss the options to begin with - I had heard that there was some plans to have a different ride/destination for each Saturday in the month. I like your ideas, Andrew - I'll come on your longer rides (how about doing them once a month or so?)

Admittedly I do seem to be attracting supporters to my route but I would like more people to try it out (if only so that I don't have to always lead and can get some faster rides in )

I do think that any changes to the club run route should be considered by the VCs and include the committee before going to the rest of the club. I don't want to start a war

Joining you in that corner, Andrew

[Andrew G]

[quote="Amy"]I'll come on your longer rides (how about doing them once a month or so?)

[Tony]

Andrew, why not propose at the AGM that the clubrun is moved to Richmond Park? I'm sure I got the impression from somewhere that you'd jump at the opportunity to ride round there on a regular basis. As I recall you also wanted to meet some of your friends from the London Dynamo. I believe they are looking forwards to catching up with you too.

[mrP(Boonen)VT]

[quote]After all, where do you discuss the route of the club run, if you can't discuss it at the committee meetings or the AGM?

[Amy]

[quote="mrP(Boonen)VT"]and isn't it getting discussed here?

Guru P

[Rob C]

Er, how about you ride were you like and if others want to join you they do? Does it really take an act of parliament to organise a bike ride?

[Andrew G]

I know what you mean Rob, and for a normal bike ride that works fine, as do alternate CRs if someone wants to go somewhere else. It is more the case of the official CR which has to cater for mixed abilities and up to 100 riders. Less easy to wing that or you'd have a mixed ability group of 60 riders.

[quote="Andrew G"]mrP(Boonen)VT wrote:
the current route is one that I devised along wih John Smith many years ago

[quote="PeteS"]As you may know I'm a little less diplomatic than you are Andrew.