Wrong Kingston Snoop, Lisa is Phoenix not Wheelers, d'oh. She was very helpful though, but says that they do a trophy based on their club 10s on a handicap basis.
I've had a little think about what we could do but I'm not sure there should be an entry fee, winner gets a trophy to collect at the club dinner (I'm sure club funds could cover this but if there is a reason not to then I don't mind getting one, just don't expect something like the UEFA Cup if it comes from my pocket
). Obviously would all need to be cleared by the committee.
Initial thoughts would be to keep it as open as possible to general club members, the other TT trophies are based on scratch so lets give something to reward a most improved. For this reason I would go for handicap and say a best 5 results out of a set list of
x races. Counting events have to be Open races (club 10s are a more informal handicapping system) and must include 1 x 10, 1 x 25, 1 x SCCU Sporting TT of any distance from the 3 early season ones, and 1 x any other greater than a 25 (e.g. 50 or 100, or a longer Sporting), and one "any other event" from a set list off races (I would be happy to set a list of races or readily bow to Jon's judgement and experience but I think they should all be G courses). Send your handicap result in and once collected points awarded for the top 15 (15 points down to 1 or as far as it goes depending on entries) for the best to worst "-" time. Your best 5 points results are added up at the end and the most points wins the egg cup, I mean trophy. Thoughts, suggestions?
[quote="-Adam-"]Yeah, theres quite a few people that can do fast times on flat courses, but by virtue of being fat, are crap on proper courses.
Not trying to say what you should or shouldn't do, just provoking discussion!
Interesting comment Adam. What do you consider a "proper" course, presumably something like the pros do
. As the UK invented time trialling then I think that what the majority of what UK time trialists do holds some weight.
You could also argue that an out and back course is a truer measure of a rider than a circuit or a point to point where the wind could have a more favourable benefit to the rider. The reason for having out and back is to negate any advantage that the wind may give you. Your "fat" tester will only be quicker on a flat course if their power to weight is greater (ignoring aerodynamics which presumably the fat tester's wouldn't be too good) which could be argued to be the case on a Sporting course. Equally I can't say I've noticed too many guts around TT HQs but I'll be sure to let the likes of Keith Coffey, Tim Stevens, Laurance Harding et al know that flat courses are for fat people
. Aren't sprinters just wheel suckers who ride on other's coat tails 'til the end of a race?