Club Time Trial Series??

[Snoop Doug]

Kingston run a comp through the TT season. How does it work?

"It's a special season-long time trial competition based around a series of designated TT events. Points are awarded, from 10 down to 1, for the first 10 riders in each event. Your best seven rides will count for the trophy, so you don't have to ride every event! But participation can still count more than speed to rack up points. Remember, the aim of the series is for a fun way for us all to ride together, to pick events for us all to ride together, this is firstly a way for members to have a common calendar of races to do together."

This sounds like fun. Should we do something similar? I'd happily coordinate the scores etc and keep everyone posted. Maybe a small, eg £7.50 one off entry fee per person to pay for some small prizes??

How about it folks??

Snoop

[mrP(Boonen)VT]

Just don't tell George

[Andrew G]

Sounds like a good idea Snoop. I'll contact Lisa to see if they do it purely on scratch if they calculate on some kind of handicap basis, otherwise I'd have thought it's going to be the same bod keep winning and less incentive for others. If we do it I think it should include a fair share of SCCU events and you have to have one sporting TT in your counting events list.

[Dominic]

I am on board as well but it will have to be done quickly as the season is almost upon us.

May I suggest the SCCU 21 as the sporting

[-Adam-]

Only one sporting TT to qualify? How can one claim to be a good time trialist if all he can do is ride up and down a dual carriage way!?

[quote="-Adam-"]Only one sporting TT to qualify? How can one claim to be a good time trialist if all he can do is ride up and down a dual carriage way!?

[-Adam-]

Yeah, theres quite a few people that can do fast times on flat courses, but by virtue of being fat, are crap on proper courses.

Not trying to say what you should or shouldn't do, just provoking discussion!

[Jon H]

I say pay the £7.50 to Spoco SE and let them work out the placings and points.

[Snoop Doug]

I was thinking maybe a sporting course or two

Also some SCCU ones (though not the open 10 we have another surprise in store there)

Also a longer one or two mebbe include the charlotteville 50 and the sccu 100

Also maybe some club 10s, even though a 10 doesn't really count as it's not worth the bother of getting warmed up fer (just kidding)

Jon - your comment I don't understand sorry but I'm wearing me dunce's cap today.

Andrew - keen to hear what KW lot do

Could be fun but if we don't get it together in 09 there's always next year. Don't forget the TT standards have a bit more publicity now (though it would be great fun to slug it out with y'all)

[Andrew G]

Wrong Kingston Snoop, Lisa is Phoenix not Wheelers, d'oh. She was very helpful though, but says that they do a trophy based on their club 10s on a handicap basis.

I've had a little think about what we could do but I'm not sure there should be an entry fee, winner gets a trophy to collect at the club dinner (I'm sure club funds could cover this but if there is a reason not to then I don't mind getting one, just don't expect something like the UEFA Cup if it comes from my pocket ). Obviously would all need to be cleared by the committee.

Initial thoughts would be to keep it as open as possible to general club members, the other TT trophies are based on scratch so lets give something to reward a most improved. For this reason I would go for handicap and say a best 5 results out of a set list of x races. Counting events have to be Open races (club 10s are a more informal handicapping system) and must include 1 x 10, 1 x 25, 1 x SCCU Sporting TT of any distance from the 3 early season ones, and 1 x any other greater than a 25 (e.g. 50 or 100, or a longer Sporting), and one "any other event" from a set list off races (I would be happy to set a list of races or readily bow to Jon's judgement and experience but I think they should all be G courses). Send your handicap result in and once collected points awarded for the top 15 (15 points down to 1 or as far as it goes depending on entries) for the best to worst "-" time. Your best 5 points results are added up at the end and the most points wins the egg cup, I mean trophy. Thoughts, suggestions?

[quote="-Adam-"]Yeah, theres quite a few people that can do fast times on flat courses, but by virtue of being fat, are crap on proper courses.

Not trying to say what you should or shouldn't do, just provoking discussion!

[quote="Andrew G"][quote="-Adam-"]Yeah, theres quite a few people that can do fast times on flat courses, but by virtue of being fat, are crap on proper courses.

Not trying to say what you should or shouldn't do, just provoking discussion!

[Snoop Doug]

[quote="-Adam-"]Yeah, you tell all them people they're fat! No but seriously, TTing as it is in this country is antiquated, no offence to anyone intended but look at the average age!

[Antloony]

[quote="Snoop Doug"]
I'm fat and old by ACC standards, no offence here mate . TTing is pretty much the only form of competitive cycling I (and who knows maybe other fat and old folk) would contemplate.

[-Adam-]

[quote="Snoop Doug"]TTing is for all abilities (or lack of) I don't think you can compare the age range of TT to RR for even a teeny tiny split of a second. They are completely different disciplines for different folk

[-Adam-]

And Ant, thats the most sensible thing I've heard out of you in ages