Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

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Was Van Impe pushed or pulled out of the way

 
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby Rob Q » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:52 am

[quote]Skip fwd to about 3.35 and watch as Van Impe is pulled into the barriers by Theo Bos, or was he?

Do you mean Daryl Impey :). I watched it yesterday and he was in a bad way at the end and had to be pushed by a team mate over the line with a neck brace on.
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby Toks » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:39 am

I've watched it 4/5 times and it looks horrendous, and your first thought is Bos should be banned. He's a complete nutter. Now how about some rational thinking. If you're travelling at ~65k's an hour would you risk pulling a rider off his line right down in front of you even if he'd sworn absenities at you all race and was having an affair with your missus. The answer surely has to be No. So what was Bos doing? I'm still not sure :?
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby Rob Q » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:57 am

[quote="Toks"]I've watched it 4/5 times and it looks horrendous, and your first thought is Bos should be banned. He's a complete nutter. Now how about some rational thinking. If you're travelling at ~65k's an hour would you risk pulling a rider off his line right down in front of you even if he'd sworn absenities at you all race and was having an affair with your missus. The answer surely has to be No. So what was Bos doing? I'm still not sure :?

Toks its a hard one. Cant see the rational of Bos pulling Impey to save himself as Impey was in his line and was always going to come down with Impey. It not like Bos even held his hand out to push Impey to the right. The fact that he grabs his jersey and pulls him hard to the left is a bit suspicious.
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby -Adam- » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:03 am

Yes, you have to wonder what was going on there.

I don't think you can tell enough from that video. I think I should have it on Sky+ so will look closer later...
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby -Adam- » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:06 am

Impey is a SA yes, (Van) Impe is Belgian. C'mon Sean, get it right!
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby Rob Q » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:07 am

[quote="Sean Hogan - 何祥"]Is Impe South African?

I know guys from SA have real problems staying upright on bikes ;-)

:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: I was wondering how long it would take you Sean
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby adrian » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:10 am

Is it me, or is a rider in green gesturing in frustration towards Impey at around 3.30?
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby adrian » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:36 am

[quote="Sean Hogan - 何祥"][quote="adrian"]Is it me, or is a rider in green gesturing in frustration towards Impey at around 3.30?


...all the same, does that justify the actions that follow?

I'm not sure it's that clear-cut. Looks to me as if Impey slams the door shut on Bos and rides him into the barriers. Bos has nowhere to go and tries to hold Impey off. Bos clips the barriers, they're both off balance, wheels touch and down they go. One of those things.
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby -Adam- » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:56 am

OK, after some slightly bigger screen forensic work, my opinion is that the Rabobank rider was not being impeded by Impey. He does appear to quite vigorously pull Impey's jersey though, resulting in the crash.

I would have thought that his motive was to slingshot himself past Impey, to move up for the sprint. Obviously this is a dubious tactic, and it backfired quite badly for him! That said, it's not unknown. I've never seen it happen myself, but I have heard stories of it happening. It's a bit like getting a hand sling, but without asking the other guy and just using his jersey to pull on.

So yes, given the result of the manouver, I think the Rabo rider should get at least a heavy fine, if not a short ban.
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby kieran » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:13 pm

having looked at this version, I think it looks like an accident.

[url]http://picasaweb.google.de/hokmann/E...86090944553314[/url]

Bos started to fall and instinctively closed his fist and that was enough.
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby -Adam- » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:22 pm

Can't see the pic on that link Kieran.

What I see on moving picture is sling shot gone wrong. I don't think there was necessarily malicious intent, but none the less, the move was out of order and he should be sanctioned accordingly.
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby Manchee39 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:23 pm

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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby -Adam- » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:13 pm

Doesn't suprise me. Someone like Bos will be fairly well connected.
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby -Adam- » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:33 pm

Boom Boom
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Re: Yellow Jersey pulled into barriers by rider?

Postby Alan M » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:50 pm

It's GBH, never mind a ban. Not sure what the penalty would be in Turkey but I wouldn't rule out imprisonment
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