ACC evening 10, 23rd June (2-up TTT)

[Jon H]

We will be holding a slightly different evening 10 on Tuesday 23rd June at 8.00pm, on the Holmwood course.
The format will be a 2-up team time trial, with categories as follows:

1) Jack 'n' Jill (male & female team, female must stay behind until 200m from the finish)
2) GP de Gents (vet (40+) & non-vet, vet must stay behind until 200m from the finish)
3) Regular 2-up (any team you want)

Billy no-mates solo riders can tag on at the end if there's places available.

As usual entries to me by email, PM or post on this thread.

[Andrew G]

This is great fun.
Any ladies, or failing that "old" men, want a tow?
If no takers anyone want to ride a straight 2-up?

[Jon C C on a Bianchi]

I know I ask this every year but what's the difference betwen a regular 2 up and the GP de gents? I know you can't through and off in the GP - Sam would have to tow me - but what about the regular 2 up? is it a HC event?

Anyway, put TEAM CAMDEN on the start sheet please Jon

thanks

Jon C

[Andrew G]

A Gents GP means a young buck(ess) tows round a vet (over 40) for the full duration of the TT. The vet is only allowed to come past in the final 200m if they want / are capable of a sprint finish. The handicap would be based on the vets PB.

A Jack n Jill works the same but with the man (Jack) towing the woman (Jill) all the way to the final 200m. Age of either rider doesn't come in to play and you handicap off the woman's time.

In both the above it is only the vet or woman's time that counts so if the pacer punctures the other can carry on solo for a time.

A regular 2-up you roll round on a thru n off taking turns of approx 30 seconds each (although as a general rule you don't switch on hills/drags as the rider finishing a turn would tend to suffer more doing this), effectively working together and riding at a higher pace then either rider would be able to manage on their own due to the mini breaks they get from the wind. You want two riders of similar ability and speed, it also helps if they have a similar style of riding and smoother works best rather than up and down in speeds/efforts. Not sure how the handicap works, I guess of the PB of the fastest or slowest of the two, but ideally they should be pretty close anyway.

[Antloony]

[quote="Andrew G"]This is great fun.
Any ladies, or failing that "old" men, want a tow?
If no takers anyone want to ride a straight 2-up?

[Andrew G]

Okay Ant although with your form and speed at the mo I think I'll definitely need to be using full aero kit.

[Antloony]

[quote="Andrew G"]Okay Ant although with your form and speed at the mo I think I'll definitely need to be using full aero kit.

[Jon C C on a Bianchi]

Thanks for thye explanation andrew. We like the sound of the regular 2 up through and off. Put us down for that please jon.

Jon

[Sylv]

George are you teamed up or if not do you fancy a 2-up?

[Snoop Doug]

[quote="Sylv"]George are you teamed up or if not do you fancy a 2-up?

[HuwG]

Hi,

I'd be up for doing a GPDG (I'm of required age to be towed although perhaps not a Gent! )

I did it last year but didn't know the rules and kept going past the 'towing person'

What would be the optimal difference in ability (PBs) between the person towing and the one being towed? I'd reckon on doing a 23-24m on the G10/42 at the moment (I'll know next Tuesday), I did a short 29 on the Bletchingly course last week.

I don't have a TT bike, just a road bike with tri-bars, but I don't think that would matter behind someone???

cheers,

Huw

[Andrew G]

[quote]What would be the optimal difference in ability (PBs) between the person towing and the one being towed?

[djembi]

Hi Jon
Could you put me and PeteS down for the 2 up as we are both old

[tel]

Jon

Could you put myself and Steve Hehir down for the two-up.

Terry

[Toks]

Jon, Steph and I would like to do the Jack and Jill please