ACC Road Race champs 2009

[Snoop Doug]

Sean, well spotted, you win the prize, a nice new pair of planet reality specs. To support the case I would ask you and and anyone else who gives a tuppeny doodah:

Why didn't we mod the CR to arrive at and support the ACC RR?
Why didn't we mod the CR to arrive at and support the track champs (barely a handful of racers and spectators)?
Why didn't we mod the CR to arrive at and support the ACC Open 10?
Why didn't we mod the CR to arrive at and support the ACC Club RR?

Don't forget, there's the ACC cyclo cross coming soon, we can not mod the CR to arrive at and support that too.

The club run is a success. It has significant pulling power. I'm not saying that to try and deflect criticism, it's fact. I just wish it would, just occasionally use that pulling power to pull in a (literally) different direction, particularly in direct support of fellow club mates. Imagine the fantastic PR a club our size could generate with mega-support at these events. Surely the Pine Shop isn't gonna fold just because we go somewhere else once or twice?

Tin hat on waiting for incoming fire - seriously folks, I'd be interested to get some views on this.

Have a good one - Snoop

[Snoop Doug]

[quote="Sean Hogan"]Quite telling really. For their own Sportive Dulwich have over 60 riders turning out. If ACC ever get a Sportive up and running could we match that?



Not sure we'd be even close to half that many.

[kieran]

Well, just my two pence worth, I missed the club RR this year as we had other family plans for that weekend. I think one problem is that the dates are not fixed so people can't plan ahead. If the RR and track champs were held on the same dates every year then people could plan ahead and also the club could make sure nothing else clashed with the events.

For the track champs maybe it could also have a "come and try track riding" (with bike hire - would we need a coach?) session attached to encourage those who have never done it and who might be put off by the prospect of racing on the track. Track stand competition? The HH velodrome also has the MTB course so could something be done with that to broaden the appeal? Bring your sprogs and let them loose on the MTB circuit? Have an Addiscombe MTB race? As HH is not too far from Croydon etc maybe hold another Addiscombe picnic there (like the one at Crystal Palace) or in Dulwich park with some funny bikes hired from Dulwich recumbents?

For the road race do we need more than an A and B race? Maybe also a C and D race targetted at the 17 mph group? Again Hillingdon is far away and entails a horrible journey across London - would another road circuit like last year be better - and attach it to the club run?

Have a club rider's partner's race? Family ride?

I think to get more coming the events may have to expand their remit and make it into a "fun day of club cycling/festival"

Would it be possible to survey the saturday club run to see what they would like? Hand out a little questionnaire and collect it the next week?

[Snoop Doug]

[quote="kieran"]Would it be possible to survey the saturday club run to see what they would like? Hand out a little questionnaire and collect it the next week?

[Paul H]

Nobody in our CR group last saturday would have wanted to go to hillingdon as we all had things to do in the afternoon.

One good thing about the CR is that you know what time you will be home.

[Snoop Doug]

Good point Paul, and good point Sean. I don't think this is about pitting one thing against another, more about getting smarter and creating more opportunities for more people to experience more from the world of cycling. Assuming they want to (which is why I was drawn to Kieran's bright idea).

[huw williams]

[quote="Dominic"]Does Huw get an award for the best outfit of the day?

[quote="Sean Hogan"]Why couldn't there have been a CR to the race?

[quote="Paul H"]

It may be just me, but shouldnt the race only contain riders who are eligible to win the club championships? I have no problem with 2nd claimers (Adam) riding but they should be allowed to win otherwise its all a bit of a farce.

For the last 2 years, riders that are not eligible for the win have altered the most critical part of both races:

[Toks]

[quote="Sean Hogan"]Why couldn't there have been a CR to the race? The

[Snoop Doug]

[quote="Toks"]I just want to say a massive thanks to all the people that competed especially those of you who have never raced before. Brilliant stuff those of you who made it into the top three in both A, B and women's race.Thanks for helping out Michelle, Hal, Adam and my right hand man Huw. Those prizes were fantastic dude!! cheers once again. Finally a super well done to the new Champ Sylvain. You've had a great season - well done

[kieran]

[quote]We had our Open 10 in the diary all year and yet that didn't stop the club run going to Brighton on the same day,

[Snoop Doug]

There's always gonna be a few clashes I guess, and let's face it we don't want to get all my trips bigger than yours. Maybe we've just suffered a heavy dose of bad planning this year. I wonder how people would feel though if we did try to coordinate efforts and really get behind a few key events? Over the course of a year we're only talking a few things, maybe:

ACC RR
Open 25 TT
Open 10 TT
Cyclo X
Track Champs
Club RR
Surrey Leag Hcap
Beastway
President's 10 (sorry Jon )

Not too many over the course of a year.....is it? I've probably missed a big fave - apologies - but you get the point eh? I'm sure we could easily create a pwerful sense of inclusion

[quote="kieran"][quote]We had our Open 10 in the diary all year and yet that didn't stop the club run going to Brighton on the same day,

[Brian Nolan]

[quote="Keith"]Thanks Toks, Huw and crowd for organising this.

+ 1

well done to Toks & Huw and anyone else who helped to put this event on ...
I wasn't too sure about making the trip but I'm glad I did as it was great fun.. Bit of a shame about low numbers but it was still a great day out...
cheers,
bry,