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Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Hal » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:31 pm

My lovely carbon frame has a crack/dent/ding in the top tube. :cry: I don’t really know how it got there but is does not look like a crash/wear and tear issue. It went back to specialized who agree that it is not covered under the crash replacement. However they will do a less than half price replacement with the current model but will still cost a fair bit.

Should I:
- pay the cash and get a lovely new frame? (current first choice)
- get the frame back and get it repaired? (bit dubious about this)
- any other options?

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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby DavidKennett » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:34 pm

Get a "Shack" bike

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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Andrew G » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:10 pm

Give these guys a call. - [url]http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/[/url]

They will be able to help out with repair advice and carry it out. I've seen a number of comments from people about bikes they've repaired and donw a top job at a fraction of the cost of a new one.
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Kevin Rynne » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:24 pm

I'm in a similar situation, I take it they are offering you an sl3 but want £1000 on exchange for your frame. That’s an SL3, highly rated frame for £800 less than recommended retail? For £1000 you won’t get a comparable frame
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Hal » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:34 pm

Its an SL2 they are offering for £650

Feels like a reasonable deal.
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Hal » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:51 pm

£100 + vat and postage to get the old one mended
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Wal » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:03 am

£100 sounds very reasonable indeed - who quoted you that?

I got in touch with Carbon Fibre Repairs (whose website no longer appears to be active) in Croydon last year about repairing a cracked seatstay on my Fuji and they quoted me £235. I ended up getting a repair kit from [url=http://www.carbonology.com/]Carbonology[/url] and doing a DIY repair, which is still holding up fine a year and some 5000 miles later. But at £100 for a professional job I'd go for that.

£650 for a new SL2 frame is a good deal, but that £500 difference would go a long way on other bike upgrades...tough decision!
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Grahame » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:13 am

I'd stump up the £650 for a new frame.
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Dombo » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:33 pm

Crimbo present to yourself. Get the new frame. It will have a warranty.

If you get your old one fixed, either "professionally" or diy, and it goes wrong then the deal from Spesh will be off the table and you'll be looking at full RRP or whatever deal you can find for a replacement.

You'll appreciate the quality long after the price is forgotten.
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Dombo » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:44 pm

[quote="Wal"]

£650 for a new SL2 frame is a good deal, but that £500 difference would go a long way on other bike upgrades...tough decision!


Not really. I'm assuming the bike already has good kit so upgrades would have an extremely low marginal utility eg Ultegra to DA, Chorus to Record or SRAM equivalent groupset jumps. Chainset and both mechs plus new chain and cassette will leave little if any change from £500. The wheels are likely to be pretty decent too so again difficult to justify an upgrade eg Easton EA90 SLX (my favourite hoop) or equivalent come in at around £500 and unlikely to improve much on what Hal already has.

Not a tough decision at all, I bet he's already made it and just wants our approval :wink:
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Dombo » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:47 pm

[quote="Wal"]

£650 for a new SL2 frame is a good deal, but that £500 difference would go a long way on other bike upgrades...tough decision!


Not really. I'm assuming the bike already has good kit so upgrades would have an extremely low marginal utility eg Ultegra to DA, Chorus to Record or SRAM equivalent groupset jumps. Chainset and both mechs plus new chain and cassette will leave little if any change from £500. The wheels are likely to be pretty decent too so again difficult to justify an upgrade eg Easton EA90 SLX (my favourite hoop) or equivalent come in at around £500 and unlikely to improve much on what Hal already has.

Not a tough decision at all, I bet he's already made it and just wants our approval :wink:
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Andrew G » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:10 pm

I've nothing against Specialized and have tended to like a lot of their stuff and thought well of them as a company, however there is possibly the dilema that Hal's frame isn't very old (a year or two?) and has developed a crack in the tube without being crashed or mistreated. Would you therefore want a replacement of the same (or current version) of that frame?

Another option is pay the £115 (or £117.50 if in the new year) to get the frame repaired and save the £535 (or £532.50) and put it towards a new different frame when desire / finance permits.
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Dombo » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:39 pm

Surely if it has developed a crack without being crashed or mistreated then it is a warranty job?
My aluminium Kona mtb frame developed a crack at the rear shock mounting point after almost 4 years and they replaced it free of charge with the then equivalent frame. If it is not covered under the crash replacement scheme then it hasn't been damaged in a crash and if it's only a couple of years old must still be under warranty? Or am I missing something?
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Re: Replacement Frame dilemma

Postby Hal » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:13 pm

I think the warantee problem is that the crack/split/dent/ding is not a manufacturing fault, and probably not caused by normal use.

Although I don't know how or when it happended a close inspection seems to suggest that something gave it a bit of a knock, could have been in my garage, could have been while outside a cafe, could have been by squirrls. I don't know really. But its fair that specilized dont what to hand out a completly free replacement.

I'm going to see if I can get one in a funky white world champ colours.

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