Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Dombo » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:42 pm

Great photos. Looks like a lot of fun. Sorry I missed it - was all set to go but started going down with streaming cold last night. Stayed in feeling sorry for myself :( . Kudos to Aodan on the cross bike, and George for checking out CSS for a road CR!
Defo need to work on my bike handling skills to even consider taking the road steed out in these conditions. See you at the dinner.
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Amy » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:47 pm

[quote="Dombo"]Defo need to work on my bike handling skills to even consider taking the road steed out in these conditions.


What worries me, other than my ability to stay upright in this weather, is the ability of others around me - namely anyone in something bigger and heavier and faster than me - to stop and/or avoid me if I do come a cropper...

[quote="Dombo"]See you at the dinner


This weather's supposed to last till then isn't it?
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Marek » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:49 pm

Hey guys,

A quick question for you, I am out on the mtb tomorrow, would you go for spd's in this weather or just use flat pedals as easier to protect yourself from a fall?

Cheers

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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby sonic909 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:52 pm

[quote="Marek"]Hey guys,

A quick question for you, I am out on the mtb tomorrow, would you go for spd's in this weather or just use flat pedals as easier to protect yourself from a fall?

Cheers

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SPDs all day long as they will stop you slipping off the pedals when icy/wet/numb and give you more ability to move your weight around and hop the bike about.

You sound like your planning to fall off... bad attitude! :lol:
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Marek » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:59 pm

Just a realist in my own mtb ability. :D

Cheers will put the spds back on then, needed to take them off for the sledge pulling earlier this week.

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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Grahame » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:03 pm

In my view it depends on a load of variables:
What clipless pedals are you using? If it's Time ATACs or White Brothers, then I'd be tempted to use them anyway. If it's Shimano SPDs, then one of the things I don't like about them is their propensity to clog up and refuse to let you clip in.

How grippy are your flat pedals? Or do they have toeclips on them? If they are grippy and/or have toeclips, then maybe (in very cold weather, like today) I'd be tempted to use them with a pair of good hiking boots.

Today I used my Time ATAC pedals with Sidi Inverno boots that in the past have always been warm enough, but today on the descent from Selsdon, my toes got pretty chilly (to the point that I thought about peeling off from the ride and going home). I'll be getting some new, thermal insoles for them tomorrow.

At the end of the day, it's your call.

BTW, I'm glad I didn't bail - the rest of the ride was great fun.
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby sonic909 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:20 pm

I use Crank Brothers Egg Beaters on both my road (normal commuter) and mtb.

They never clog no matter what i have trodden in, and i find MTB shoes much better for grip on the road (ever put a foot down on a wet drainlid or road paint...the splits is next!)

I can see either sides, but personally i'd hurt myself without them.
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Andrew G » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:25 pm

I use spds on the MTB and it's not bad. You don't get frozen in so if you fall then you will come out of them. They do clog a bit but I find a a quick stamp on them before clipping in does the job.
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Dombo » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:51 am

[quote="Marek"]Hey guys,

A quick question for you, I am out on the mtb tomorrow, would you go for spd's in this weather or just use flat pedals as easier to protect yourself from a fall?

Cheers

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SPDs or any other clipless system, Time Atac, Eggbeaters etc, as they keep your feet attached to the pedals and so in control. Your centre of gravity is lower and you are therefore more stable. If you do fall you can easily put a foot down. Also, most mtb shoes have studs at the front (Spesh mtb pros are steel) to help grip if ever you need to walk up something.
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Dombo » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:58 am

[quote="Amy"][quote="Dombo"]Defo need to work on my bike handling skills to even consider taking the road steed out in these conditions.


What worries me, other than my ability to stay upright in this weather, is the ability of others around me - namely anyone in something bigger and heavier and faster than me - to stop and/or avoid me if I do come a cropper...



Main roads are mostly clear. Snowy, icy ones you'll be going same speed or faster than the cars. Everyone's sold out of studded mtb tyres so I shall experiment with softer pressures to see if I get more grip than at 45psi.
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Bo-Gilly » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:01 pm

[quote]I use Crank Brothers Egg Beaters.........

They never clog


I used my Crank Brothers on yesterday's ride, and I did have a slight problem clipping in. Although I got the impression that I was having a bit less problem than those with SPDs.

Having said that, my pedals were Candys (well Smarties actually) and I don't think the platform helps. Had I been using my other bike with the Egg Beaters, I'm sure I wouldn't have had any problem.

TBH, I don't know why I have any Candy/Smarty pedals, the platforms do nothing for me, and have always been a hindrance.

But yeah, I certainly wouldn't have felt so save on the ride if I hadn't been clipped in.
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Marek » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:26 pm

Cheers guys, well went on a 3 hour ride with EGCC. Found some really great routes with the infamous Steve Dennis leading they way. There were 7 of us on the ride and was awesome fun. Your right about using the spd's, I think I would have had more problems with the flat pedals. Did come off once when hit a bit of a rutt, but the snow was soft so broke my fall. Really good fun and excellent practice for the handling skills, also a good all body workout as you have to work hard to keep the bike under control when hitting some of the deeper slushy snow.

Hope it snows more tonight and the trains go up the spout, I want another go. Maybe a night ride, hmmmm.

Cheers

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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Snoop Doug » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:34 pm

Looks like a lot of fun - excellent. I had hoped to get out with Marky Mark and Rob for some mtb fun too. So what stopped me...

Boiler packed on Friday. Turns out the pipe through which the condensate flows had frozen up, so a failsafe switch off occurred. Pipe comes down the outside wall then turns sharply towards a gutter thingie. Frozen on/around the turn. I spent an hour plus giving the pipe the hair dryer treatment (Sir Alex would've been proud of me) and I got the thing going again.

It went off again and I found myself outside at 5.50 am Sat morning in the freezing cold darkness doing it all over again. This time 90 mins was required. Eff this says I after eventually thawing and having cancelled my mtb rendezvous went in search of some kind of uber pipe lagging.

Lagging? Flagging. It didn't work and my makeshift lagalot 2010 let me down and the pipe froze again around midday. This time I sawed through the offending section of pipe with a hacksaw and remoived it, et voila! I will need to sort out a more permanent solution @ some point but we're back in the warm. Damn shame I missed the snow though - those pics look great - grrrr.

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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Rob Q » Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:26 pm

Soz to hear about your dilemma Snoop. You would have enjoyed the alternative MTB run.(It was alternative cause we started way later than the MTB CR from Croydon) Marky Mark and I headed off around 11 over Riddlesdown Common (nice and snowy). Headed towards Warlingham and then kicked off down the lanes. All very sociable and steady on the packed snow lanes. Popped into out first pub around 12 midday somewhere :? then hit the road again and cut across the lanes and somehow came out near the top of Botley after dealing with blizzard like conditions. Tried to get into the Botley, but it was closed due to some snow :lol: .

By this time we decided to head for home with a further 3 pub stops and a bite to eat. Back across Riddlesdown common where a further inch seemed to have fallen and after some funny moments we made it home. A great day with some pleasant pubs thrown in the mix. Snoop you would have loved it ;-)

Snow glorious Snow
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And I dont think we had even stopped for a pint yet :lol:
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Nice snow packed lanes
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Re: Snow MTB Ride - Sat 9th Jan - 9.15 for 9.30 East Croydon

Postby Snoop Doug » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:52 pm

excellent! And is Marky Mark practicing his aincent red injun tracking skills - or something :oops: 8)
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