CR 30th January '10

[Dombo]

[quote="Robh"]As the first one to go down and bringing everyone else down you gonna cough up for the damage?

[Rob Q]

[quote="Antloony"]As one of the riders involved in saturdays accident I will say this. If I decide to ride my bike, regardless of the conditions, then I will. If I come a cropper I only have myself to blame. No one is forced to ride, no one put a gun to my head, it was my decision and mine only. I don't come here to see my friends get wound up and belittled like they're 3 olds not capable of making a sensible decision for themselves. So I fell off, big deal, I fell off and had far more injuries last year on a boiling hot summers day with no ice in sight, sh1t happens.

No wonder this country is turning into a nanny state....

What is there to discuss. If people want to ride their bikes while juggling chainsaws whilst blindfolded and drunk who are we to stop them? The onus is on us as to go for a ride or not, I'd like to think we're all mature and wise enough to make our own minds up and should the consequences of our actions not be favorable then the blame lies solely on our backs, not with ACC or any of its members be they VC's or club members who happen to be sharing the same stretch of tarmac at any given time. That's how I see it and I'm damn sure the majority, if not all will, share my view.

[Amy]

The 'danger' of someone suing a club member is something the CTC has looked into with it's system of sections and leaders - it is a possibility but I'm not sure if it's ever been properly addressed (ie how to circumvent such an event) or even tested in a case...

However, EVERYBODY should have the correct insurance to cover this sort of thing, am I right?

If you haven't got third party insurance - get it now, from either the CTC or BC

I think the main thing is to take responsibility for our actions and remember that you can come as much a cropper tripping over the pavement...

Keep riding safely, everyone.

[Dombo]

I understood this was a requirement of participation in club rides?

[Amy]

Yes, it is.

and it is up to every member to ensure they have it.

[Grahame]

[quote="Dombo"]I understood this was a requirement of participation in club rides?

[Dombo]

I use these people. Part of British Cycling without the race licence:

http://new.britishcycling.org.uk/travel ... -Cycling-0

[spike]

[quote="Amy"]The 'danger' of someone suing a club member is something the CTC has looked into with it's system of sections and leaders - it is a possibility but I'm not sure if it's ever been properly addressed (ie how to circumvent such an event) or even tested in a case...

However, EVERYBODY should have the correct insurance to cover this sort of thing, am I right?

If you haven't got third party insurance - get it now, from either the CTC or BC

I think the main thing is to take responsibility for our actions and remember that you can come as much a cropper tripping over the pavement...

Keep riding safely, everyone.

[Amy]

Yes, I remember that one - I mean, suing the CTC or club, where you have leaders or VCs.

But that case is somewhere where you need your insurance! All you need is to be a member of the CTC or BC.

[Dombo]

[quote="Sean Hogan"]I might add....

Some ****** pal!

Sean

[jon avery]

Mmmmmmmmmmm this could get interesting

[Dombo]

And all because somebody slipped on some ice.....talk about butterfly's wings

[jon avery]

Now then!! What if a butterfly flew in your eye during a club run causing you to crash,would you sue Surrey council as they should have had precautions in place to stop the butterfly getting on the road,or the VC as he should have known there may be flying insects so NO way should you have gone out in the first place!! Just a thought

[Dombo]

I am advised that I cannot answer that question

[Amy]

Maybe the pal came up with the suggestion that he sue him - as a means of helping him out?