2 x 20's ouch!

[Paul on the Pearson]

No ground breaking advice, dietery tips or shocks from the world of medical research where some one has discovered that too much training causes excessive facial hair, just some waffle as I dont usually post here as I dont usually train!
Yesterday did my first 2 x 20 intervals on the Newdigate circuit.
So for what its worth, heres some numbers from my new toy.... Ist interval av HR 173 max 179, 2nd one 171 ave max 178.

[Toks]

Oh no...now you've crossed over you'll never be the same Paul. Well done

[kieran]

soon you'll be buying a power meter of some sort!!!!

[Ivor]

What exactly is a 2x20 interval? is that just flat out for 20 minutes twice with a bit of a break in the middle?

[Paul on the Pearson]

Orv, that in a nutshell is more or less it. Knowing your max(ish) heart rate means you can work out your threshold level (not sure of the percentage below your max this is, but some one will) and it's this level of intensity you try and maintain for 20 minutes. I think its 20 minutes as this is about all you can do at threshold. You get a 5 min break inbetween each one.

[Michelle]

Woah! Re-reading this Paul, you have got some kind of elastic heart there.

Just did my first 2 x 20 on a turbo (borrowed off Marek) yesterday. Tried one last week on the road and v inconsistent trying to get the HR up to required level and keep it there, so turbo our from under the kitchen table and set up.

God it was hard! Much much much much much much harder than doing it on the road.

And I am only doing HR ranges 153- 166 and 156 - 168!!!!!

That was hard enough God help me. I was a puddle, the bike was a puddle, the floor under the bike was a puddle. I looked sunburned for half an hour I was so pink. Or maybe I was green

Lotta work to do then.........sigh.

[Snoop Doug]

[quote="Michelle"]Woah! Re-reading this Paul, you have got some kind of elastic heart there.

Just did my first 2 x 20 on a turbo (borrowed off Marek) yesterday. Tried one last week on the road and v inconsistent trying to get the HR up to required level and keep it there, so turbo our from under the kitchen table and set up.

God it was hard! Much much much much much much harder than doing it on the road.

And I am only doing HR ranges 153- 166 and 156 - 168!!!!!

That was hard enough God help me. I was a puddle, the bike was a puddle, the floor under the bike was a puddle. I looked sunburned for half an hour I was so pink. Or maybe I was green

Lotta work to do then.........sigh.

[Toks]

Hey well done Michelle. The big big factor to remember with turbo training is cooling. Make sure you have a really good powerful fan. If you can't replicate the breeze on the road but you can certainly try. The perceived exertion riding the turbo without cooling is quite intense and will stymie your efforts whether you realise it or not.

STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT YOUR HEART RATE IS DOING!!!!!
RIDE AT WHAT FEELS LIKE 'RACE PACE' (tt OR rr) OR CLOSE TO RACE PACE
ITS NICE TO HAVE AN IDEA WHAT YOU AVERAGE HEART RATE IS DOING FROM TIME TO TIME BUT LET POWER, TRAINER SPEED OR PLAIN OLD 'PERCEIVED EXERTION' GOVERN YOUR EFFORTS
HEART RATE IS FAR TOO SENSITIVE (HYDRATION, FATIGUE, ANXIETY, HEAT, LACK OF SLEEP, INCREASED FITNESS, ILLNESS ETC WILL ALL AFFECT HEART RATE POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY). iF OF COURSE YOU CAN KEEP ALL THE ABOVE CONSISTENT WHICH I ACCEPT SOME PEOPLE CAN DO THEN FINE

[Michelle]

Toks, shhhhhh!

No I know you get all het up about HR but really, I am doing it for a reason.

Anyway, felt harder than race pace. I reckon I was too hot...

[Michelle]

To quantify that further Toks, as now i read it back it looks like i am telling you to shuddup!

When you type in CAPS you are shouting; sorry it was just hurting my ears (eyes)

[Toks]

[quote="Michelle"]To quantify that further Toks, as now i read it back it looks like i am telling you to shuddup!

When you type in CAPS you are shouting; sorry it was just hurting my ears (eyes)

[Robh]

The reason you can't get your Hr is your tired? But which system have you tired?

Metabollic?
Neurologic?
Neuromuscular?
Respiratory?
Cardiovascular?

Come back and tell me?

A powemeter won't tell you the above that's for sure!

Rob
FaCT Level I & II Certified

[Toks]

[quote="Robh"]The reason you can't get your Hr is your tired? But which system have you tired?

[Michelle]

Now this is getting into the realms of 'me no understandee'.

Just trying a bit of structured training ( or is that straining) as have some really BIG events to do this year, rather than riding round and round my hill circuit and trying to get ' more miles on the legs' which is all I did last year.

Doesn't seem to be too bad so far, come back from 9 weeks off the bike, done 3 weeks on it, and managed to cling on to the 19s nearly all the way to the cafe.

[Robh]

I was talking in general terms Toks, so not you or Michelle.

Hope that clears the matter.